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Everyone that "declare war" on Apple either fades into obscurity soon after their 15 minutes of fame, or becomes Apple: https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments

Everyone that "declare war" on Apple either fades into obscurity soon after their 15 minutes of fame, or becomes Apple: https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/ki1rvt/samsung_began_deleting_posts_mocking_apple_galaxy/ https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/ki1rvt/samsung_began... "Becoming Apple" in Facebook and Epic's case may mean their own app stores, and both of them are already sort of on their way there.

Shared404 6y ago
Epic Games appears to be still going strong, for better or for worse.
- unchocked 6y ago
  Too soon to tell.
- maxsilver 6y ago
  Epic Games might be the exception that proves the rule. Epic doesn't actually need Apple (they have a half-dozen much better ways to deliver their games, all of which better target + support their core revenue audience). Their Unreal Engine is popular with developers, but if they lost iOS device support and those mobile devs switched to Unity, most major games would still continue to use Unreal to target all the major platforms. And similarly, Apple doesn't need Epic, their iOS consoles historically don't push any high end or involved gaming, so they don't cede any meaningful ground losing them. And Apple has a bajillion dollars, they could lose all game sale revenue / gaming IAP revenue tomorrow and barely even notice it. --- Best case scenario: Epic breaks Apple's monopoly and gets anti-trust regulation enforced upon Apple (something that really should have happened a decade ago). Worst case scenario: Epic + Unreal is banned from Apple devices. Some mobile devs have to transition to Unity. Folks have to use the PC/Switch/PS4/Xbox most people already own anyway, to play Fortnite + other Unreal titles. No matter which happens, everyone's better off.
  - Aloha 6y ago
    IMO, iOS/tvOS gaming has a bigger risk of stealing some of Nintendo's revenue stream, than it does hurting anything more intense.
gilbetron 6y ago
Microsoft seems fine.
mhh__ 6y ago
Not exactly the same situation, but didn't Steve Jobs threaten to kill Dropbox after they said no - i.e. note that Dropbox still exist?
- ndiscussion 6y ago
  Dropbox is struggling to survive and has resorted to adding "teams" features that no one really wants to live up to their valuation.
  - abhinav22 6y ago
    Dropbox IMO is a terrible organization. Vastly overpriced and made it very difficult for us to cancel.
grogenaut 6y ago
Google, Android, netflix, Amazon, spotify, garmin, bose, sony, steam, dell, samsung, lenovo, all seem fine.

Shared404 6y ago

Epic Games appears to be still going strong, for better or for worse.

unchocked 6y ago
Too soon to tell.
maxsilver 6y ago
Epic Games might be the exception that proves the rule. Epic doesn't actually need Apple (they have a half-dozen much better ways to deliver their games, all of which better target + support their core revenue audience). Their Unreal Engine is popular with developers, but if they lost iOS device support and those mobile devs switched to Unity, most major games would still continue to use Unreal to target all the major platforms. And similarly, Apple doesn't need Epic, their iOS consoles historically don't push any high end or involved gaming, so they don't cede any meaningful ground losing them. And Apple has a bajillion dollars, they could lose all game sale revenue / gaming IAP revenue tomorrow and barely even notice it. --- Best case scenario: Epic breaks Apple's monopoly and gets anti-trust regulation enforced upon Apple (something that really should have happened a decade ago). Worst case scenario: Epic + Unreal is banned from Apple devices. Some mobile devs have to transition to Unity. Folks have to use the PC/Switch/PS4/Xbox most people already own anyway, to play Fortnite + other Unreal titles. No matter which happens, everyone's better off.
- Aloha 6y ago
  IMO, iOS/tvOS gaming has a bigger risk of stealing some of Nintendo's revenue stream, than it does hurting anything more intense.

gilbetron 6y ago

Microsoft seems fine.

mhh__ 6y ago

Not exactly the same situation, but didn't Steve Jobs threaten to kill Dropbox after they said no - i.e. note that Dropbox still exist?

ndiscussion 6y ago
Dropbox is struggling to survive and has resorted to adding "teams" features that no one really wants to live up to their valuation.
- abhinav22 6y ago
  Dropbox IMO is a terrible organization. Vastly overpriced and made it very difficult for us to cancel.

grogenaut 6y ago

Google, Android, netflix, Amazon, spotify, garmin, bose, sony, steam, dell, samsung, lenovo, all seem fine.