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The one thing these articles miss is that it isn't like Elon Musk himself is building the rockets. I'm not even sure that would be possible. Yes he is a smart g

by gotem 6y ago

The one thing these articles miss is that it isn't like Elon Musk himself is building the rockets. I'm not even sure that would be possible. Yes he is a smart guy, but that doesn't mean that he didn't do a lot of the work involved like engineering.

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sto_hristo 6y ago
I'm sure he's not mopping the floors as well at spacex as there are people for that. But those people aren't the reason spacex exists.
- postpawl 6y ago
  Parent comment isn't talking about just the people mopping the floors. Why are you resisting giving engineers some credit for spacex's success?
  - hungryforcodes 6y ago
    Because most companies employee engineers with unexceptional results. So ultimately it's the hiring, molding and guiding of engineering efforts that leads to supreme success. I'm not an Elon fan -- though I'm not against him -- but it seems to me that somewhere in his recipe, he's figure out this basic truth.
    - postpawl 6y ago
      >Because most companies employee engineers with unexceptional results. You don't think that maybe exceptional engineers are a big part of spacex's exceptional results?
      - hungryforcodes 6y ago
        Sure of course. But exceptional engineers produce individual exceptional results that might get lost in the general noise of a company unless it's focused and directed in the right way.
    - watwut 6y ago
      Nah, that is just attributing with and achievements of those technical smart people to management narcissists.
  - sto_hristo 6y ago
    These engineers didn't just spawn into reality the day before they were hired at spacex. They've been around for a long time working for other companies. But the things they've been doing for those other companies prior to spacex didn't wow anyone or made the headlines, did it? Then Musk enters the stage and all these amazing things happen. Yes, the engineers figure all that stuff that makes rockets turn back around from orbit and land on a platform in open waters, but none of that existed before Musk, even though it was, apparently, very possible. Ultimately it's the synergy between a general and the troops. Shitty troops will lose the battle no matter how awesome the general is; a shitty general will lose battle regardless how awesome his men are. In USA there is plenty of awesome talent (troops) inhibited by tons of shitty generals (entrepreneurs) that have no vision or courage to use that potential to make great things. So when someone great show up, like Musk, it's more than appropriate to commemorate them.

by gotem 6y ago

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sto_hristo 6y ago

I'm sure he's not mopping the floors as well at spacex as there are people for that. But those people aren't the reason spacex exists.

postpawl 6y ago
Parent comment isn't talking about just the people mopping the floors. Why are you resisting giving engineers some credit for spacex's success?
- hungryforcodes 6y ago
  Because most companies employee engineers with unexceptional results. So ultimately it's the hiring, molding and guiding of engineering efforts that leads to supreme success. I'm not an Elon fan -- though I'm not against him -- but it seems to me that somewhere in his recipe, he's figure out this basic truth.
  - postpawl 6y ago
    >Because most companies employee engineers with unexceptional results. You don't think that maybe exceptional engineers are a big part of spacex's exceptional results?
    - hungryforcodes 6y ago
      Sure of course. But exceptional engineers produce individual exceptional results that might get lost in the general noise of a company unless it's focused and directed in the right way.
  - watwut 6y ago
    Nah, that is just attributing with and achievements of those technical smart people to management narcissists.
- sto_hristo 6y ago
  These engineers didn't just spawn into reality the day before they were hired at spacex. They've been around for a long time working for other companies. But the things they've been doing for those other companies prior to spacex didn't wow anyone or made the headlines, did it? Then Musk enters the stage and all these amazing things happen. Yes, the engineers figure all that stuff that makes rockets turn back around from orbit and land on a platform in open waters, but none of that existed before Musk, even though it was, apparently, very possible. Ultimately it's the synergy between a general and the troops. Shitty troops will lose the battle no matter how awesome the general is; a shitty general will lose battle regardless how awesome his men are. In USA there is plenty of awesome talent (troops) inhibited by tons of shitty generals (entrepreneurs) that have no vision or courage to use that potential to make great things. So when someone great show up, like Musk, it's more than appropriate to commemorate them.