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Just like all the smart well compensated Wall Street employees protected our financial data? Let’s be real we’re being sold out by the rank and file too for the
by tmpz22 6y ago
Just like all the smart well compensated Wall Street employees protected our financial data? Let’s be real we’re being sold out by the rank and file too for the sweet price of a new Tesla and a Tahoe rental.
- henearkr 6y agoGooglers are not Wall Street sharks... not confuse species... Googlers go on strike if a juicy deal is made with China in exchange to some complacency to state-censorship. Or when it's an Defense contract with any country. Wall Street sharks just pop Champaign bottles when these kind of contracts happen, that's the difference.
- rusk 6y agoPeople are people and you can’t account for all of them- it only takes a small minority to make mess
- henearkr 6y agoYou forget that there is a lot of self-checking of the company by other employees, and in the past you have numerous examples of the crowd undoing the misdeeds of the few.
- rusk 6y agoThis is starry eyed nonsense.
- henearkr 6y agoHow is your reply teaching us anything? I explained how it works, and gave examples. Your turn to be convincing.
- rusk 6y agoExcuse me but you started off with “A is B” and I pointed out that well actually A is constituted of things that are actually some B but mostly C and a lot of D. Too which you respond “oh but I believe fervently that the part of A that is B will win out” and there’s really no point in getting wrapped up in such circular idiocy - as I have just now done. Doh. Happy Christmas.
- henearkr 6y agoI am sorry if I misunderstood your tone, but I only detected "emotional contents" namely insult-type content, and very poor quantity of arguments. I'm not a closed one, I am genuinely interested by what you think that could prove me wrong, only you did not spell it out yet. For example, could you explicit A, B, C, D... ?
- rusk 6y agoHa - losing my religion for you bud
- henearkr 6y agoA = Google B = responsible C = not responsible D = again not responsible? or do you mean evil? So, to reply to your argument: When Google makes something not responsible, or, worse, evil, the numerous "responsible" people that have proven to be part of the staff in the past (see the examples) will make a fuss. Shortly the misdeed would be made public, widely commented, the pressure would make the corporation take countermeasures to repair their image. That's what happened in these 2 examples, and this mechanism is still active. I'm not saying that this will work every time. I'm just highlighting that at Google this mechanism is particularly strong (and so the hate towards Google less understandable). Of course new laws would be even more convincing, if only for those corporations where the self-control is weaker.
- rusk 6y agoWishing you and yours a very Merry Christmas.
- maxerickson 6y agoDid they strike in large numbers? I thought they posted messages on internal mailing lists and stuff like that.
- henearkr 6y agoHere I read that at least 4000 people signed a petition opposing the Maven project, and the project was abandoned as a consequence. Had it not been abandoned, probably even more engineers would have joined the march. https://gizmodo.com/google-employees-resign-in-protest-against-pentagon-con-1825729300 https://gizmodo.com/google-employees-resign-in-protest-again...
- maxerickson 6y agoRight, they signed a memo asking Google not to do the thing, and, uh, oh, that's all that's in there. And then 4,000 is a lot of people in some sense, but there's 100,000+ full timers.
- henearkr 6y agoIf was sufficient, and they maybe knew it. The memo was probably centered around the interested teams. If the project had been maintained, you probably would have seen further actions... it's just like in the civil society (I mean, in politics, residents opposing local projects, etc), there is a kind of escalation.