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And do you think that's acceptable? That Apple gets to decide what apps you can install and run on your system or else you have to jump through hoops (sometimes

And do you think that's acceptable? That Apple gets to decide what apps you can install and run on your system or else you have to jump through hoops (sometimes potentially risky ones when you consider jailbreaking) to do so?

jdeibele 6y ago
If a developer chooses to remove their product from the App Store, what is Apple supposed to do about it? There doesn't seem to be a difference between this and a developer removing a product from their own website and declaring it EOL. Or not declaring EOL, just removing it. If you downloaded it, you can keep installing it. But maybe the developer found that there were significant bugs that they didn't want to or couldn't fix. Or that the App Store wasn't a profitable delivery mechanism for them.
- webmobdev 6y ago
  I was talking about the no-choice App Store on ios (and soon to be on macOS) ...
  - alsetmusic 6y ago
    > (and soon to be on macOS) This is a bullshit statement that people have been making for years.
    - webmobdev 6y ago
      Your scorn is equal to your ignorance - They've been slowly making it more and more difficult for people to install apps outside of the app store on the macOS. The latest version of macOS has already crippled application firewalls, allowing Apple authorised code special privileges to bypass any firewall / VPN to access the internet, even if the user wants to block them. Apple ARM processors further limit what OS you can run on it, even with virtualisation, without needing Apple's permission. All these criticisms of losing more and more control of your mac are genuine and valid - and is indicative of their aims to turn the macOS platform into a more closed system like ios. (You have to be a really naive Apple fan boi to believe that they do not want to increase their billion dollar+ profit margin by converting the macOS to a closed system like ios. And yes, the app store only works because ios is a closed system with Apple dictating how - and what - you can install on it).
- pier25 6y ago
  > If a developer chooses to remove their product from the App Store, what is Apple supposed to do about it? Maybe you're missing that the customer didn't buy the app from the developer, it bought it from Apple. If you buy an LG TV from Best Buy and then LG decides to stop selling to them, does that mean Best Buy stops having any responsibilities towards its customer (you)? > There doesn't seem to be a difference between this and a developer removing a product from their own website and declaring it EOL. Or not declaring EOL, just removing it. That's exactly the problem. Moving your product to a different distribution system is not declaring it EOL. > If a developer chooses to remove their product from the App Store, what is Apple supposed to do about it?

jdeibele 6y ago

If a developer chooses to remove their product from the App Store, what is Apple supposed to do about it? There doesn't seem to be a difference between this and a developer removing a product from their own website and declaring it EOL. Or not declaring EOL, just removing it. If you downloaded it, you can keep installing it. But maybe the developer found that there were significant bugs that they didn't want to or couldn't fix. Or that the App Store wasn't a profitable delivery mechanism for them.

webmobdev 6y ago
I was talking about the no-choice App Store on ios (and soon to be on macOS) ...
- alsetmusic 6y ago
  > (and soon to be on macOS) This is a bullshit statement that people have been making for years.
  - webmobdev 6y ago
    Your scorn is equal to your ignorance - They've been slowly making it more and more difficult for people to install apps outside of the app store on the macOS. The latest version of macOS has already crippled application firewalls, allowing Apple authorised code special privileges to bypass any firewall / VPN to access the internet, even if the user wants to block them. Apple ARM processors further limit what OS you can run on it, even with virtualisation, without needing Apple's permission. All these criticisms of losing more and more control of your mac are genuine and valid - and is indicative of their aims to turn the macOS platform into a more closed system like ios. (You have to be a really naive Apple fan boi to believe that they do not want to increase their billion dollar+ profit margin by converting the macOS to a closed system like ios. And yes, the app store only works because ios is a closed system with Apple dictating how - and what - you can install on it).
pier25 6y ago
> If a developer chooses to remove their product from the App Store, what is Apple supposed to do about it? Maybe you're missing that the customer didn't buy the app from the developer, it bought it from Apple. If you buy an LG TV from Best Buy and then LG decides to stop selling to them, does that mean Best Buy stops having any responsibilities towards its customer (you)? > There doesn't seem to be a difference between this and a developer removing a product from their own website and declaring it EOL. Or not declaring EOL, just removing it. That's exactly the problem. Moving your product to a different distribution system is not declaring it EOL. > If a developer chooses to remove their product from the App Store, what is Apple supposed to do about it?