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I think this is the same for every major american city. I don't know how is Chicago, or LA, but in NYC for sure nobody is saying hi to random folks. The only t

I think this is the same for every major american city. I don't know how is Chicago, or LA, but in NYC for sure nobody is saying hi to random folks. The only time you say hi is to old neighbors (which are few, as people move in and out often), and to the coffee place/restaurant/bar you frequent often. NYC does have plenty of homeless as well, but the cold clears them up pretty quick. By late November, NYC is too cold, and during the summer it can get too hot. SF definitely has other major problems. It is just too lenient on crime. NYC has seen somme uptick as well, since last year (pre-covid), and the culprit might be the no-bail reform. While might seen progressive in nature, it is letting out folks that have done multiple crimes back to back, and they return doing the same. SF has implemented this earlier and the uptick in crime is reflecting it: There was a guy that got arrested 14 times in the last 18 months for car theft. And he is still free: https://twitter.com/SFPDTenderloin/status/1337280516609884161 https://twitter.com/SFPDTenderloin/status/133728051660988416... When you have car-thieves/robbers running free around, immagine all other lower level of criminals. They know they can operate with impunity and they act accordingly. Ps. (I lived in SF for 7 years, and now in NYC for 6 years. NYC folks are less friendly in general, and more direct. SF-ers are more polite, but also more flakey).

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kstenerud 6y ago
"NYC does have plenty of homeless as well, but the cold clears them up pretty quick." That comes off pretty cold-hearted...
- meddlepal 6y ago
  Perhaps, but it's a practical observation. It's the same for most of the major Northern cities including Boston and Chicago.
- ardit33 6y ago
  I used to be pretty compassionate, but you can't deny a dense population of homeless do have a negative impact in a neighborhoods/street/block quality of life, especially if you have kids. Random fires in encampments, and drunk people passing out in front of your apt are not fun either. Last time this happen (a drunk guy cracked his head in front of my building, bleeding all over) I called 911, and the ems came. They knew the guy as he did drunk pass out often, and this was not his first time.
rmason 6y ago
Bet that it would surprise you that property crime in SF is 20% higher than in Detroit. Course violent crime is double in Detroit. But things are getting better in Detroit while they're getting worse in SF. https://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/detroit_mi/san_francisco_ca/crime https://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/detroit_mi/san_fra... Most of the violent crime in Detroit is confined to a few zip codes which definitely are not where you'd locate a tech company. There are lots of video cameras installed downtown and at places like gas stations and liquor stores which used to be crime magnets. Here's the City of Detroit crime viewer. On the left check off all the crimes under violent crimes. Be sure to set the date range or you only get the past couple of weeks. It takes a while to pan but you can see that there are fewer crimes in the downtown area than say the East part of the city. https://cityofdetroit.github.io/crime-viewer/ https://cityofdetroit.github.io/crime-viewer/

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kstenerud 6y ago

"NYC does have plenty of homeless as well, but the cold clears them up pretty quick." That comes off pretty cold-hearted...

meddlepal 6y ago
Perhaps, but it's a practical observation. It's the same for most of the major Northern cities including Boston and Chicago.
ardit33 6y ago
I used to be pretty compassionate, but you can't deny a dense population of homeless do have a negative impact in a neighborhoods/street/block quality of life, especially if you have kids. Random fires in encampments, and drunk people passing out in front of your apt are not fun either. Last time this happen (a drunk guy cracked his head in front of my building, bleeding all over) I called 911, and the ems came. They knew the guy as he did drunk pass out often, and this was not his first time.

rmason 6y ago

Bet that it would surprise you that property crime in SF is 20% higher than in Detroit. Course violent crime is double in Detroit. But things are getting better in Detroit while they're getting worse in SF. https://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/detroit_mi/san_francisco_ca/crime https://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/detroit_mi/san_fra... Most of the violent crime in Detroit is confined to a few zip codes which definitely are not where you'd locate a tech company. There are lots of video cameras installed downtown and at places like gas stations and liquor stores which used to be crime magnets. Here's the City of Detroit crime viewer. On the left check off all the crimes under violent crimes. Be sure to set the date range or you only get the past couple of weeks. It takes a while to pan but you can see that there are fewer crimes in the downtown area than say the East part of the city. https://cityofdetroit.github.io/crime-viewer/ https://cityofdetroit.github.io/crime-viewer/