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Yup. I have been using it a lot. Didn't realize it even exited until I installed the desktop client and it showed up in contacts. They need some good PR on tha

by op03 6y ago

Yup. I have been using it a lot. Didn't realize it even exited until I installed the desktop client and it showed up in contacts. They need some good PR on that feature.

SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
Telegram has similar "Saved Messages" feature.
- bartvk 6y ago
  Can you expand om that? The way I send something to myself on Telegram is by posting something in a group, of which I'm the only member.
  - czottmann 6y ago
    In the Telegram "Chats" tab, search for "Saved Messages". It's an automatically created dropbox of sorts just for you. The icon is a wee bookmark.
  - SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
    https://telegram.org/blog/albums-saved-messages https://telegram.org/blog/albums-saved-messages https://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/73778/how-to-save-unlimited-messages-and-set-reminders-on-telegram/ https://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/73778/how-to-save-unlimited-... "Saved Messages" looks like a private chat that only you can see. You can drop messages or files in there, or forward them there from other chats, and access them from any other device. It's pretty similar to what you describe.
- fsflover 6y ago
  But it's not e2e encrypted.
  - SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
    How could you access end-to-end encrypted cloud storage from multiple devices? It's still encrypted, and in multiple jurisdictions so a legal order in any single jurisdiction only decrypts one layer of encryption. "Telegram is a cloud service. We store messages, photos, videos and documents from your cloud chats on our servers so that you can access your data from any of your devices anytime without having to rely on third-party backups. All data is stored heavily encrypted and the encryption keys in each case are stored in several other data centers in different jurisdictions. This way local engineers or physical intruders cannot get access to user data." https://telegram.org/privacy https://telegram.org/privacy They also offer end-to-end encrypted secret chats, which are not uploaded to the cloud and only available on the device on which they were initiated. You are free not to trust them. But I do.
    - fsflover 6y ago
      > How could you access end-to-end encrypted cloud storage from multiple devices? By sharing your key between the devices. > a legal order in any single jurisdiction only decrypts one layer of encryption That's good to know, but it's not the cutting edge of security. (For many people it's of course enough) > They also offer end-to-end encrypted secret chats Not on desktop and not on GNU/Linux phones (which I use).
      - SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
        > By sharing your key between the devices. That would be a nice feature. > but it's not the cutting edge of security. That's true. > Not on desktop and not on GNU/Linux phones (which I use). That's unfortunate, but luckily the clients are open source, and anybody can create a new client for the platform of their choice. Telegram even provides a cross-platform API library: https://core.telegram.org/tdlib https://core.telegram.org/tdlib ` TDLib can be used on Android, iOS, Windows, macOS, Linux, WebAssembly, FreeBSD, Windows Phone, watchOS, tvOS, Tizen, Cygwin. It should also work on other *nix systems with or without minimal effort. `

by op03 6y ago

Yup. I have been using it a lot. Didn't realize it even exited until I installed the desktop client and it showed up in contacts. They need some good PR on that feature.

SpaceRaccoon 6y ago

Telegram has similar "Saved Messages" feature.

bartvk 6y ago
Can you expand om that? The way I send something to myself on Telegram is by posting something in a group, of which I'm the only member.
- czottmann 6y ago
  In the Telegram "Chats" tab, search for "Saved Messages". It's an automatically created dropbox of sorts just for you. The icon is a wee bookmark.
- SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
  https://telegram.org/blog/albums-saved-messages https://telegram.org/blog/albums-saved-messages https://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/73778/how-to-save-unlimited-messages-and-set-reminders-on-telegram/ https://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/73778/how-to-save-unlimited-... "Saved Messages" looks like a private chat that only you can see. You can drop messages or files in there, or forward them there from other chats, and access them from any other device. It's pretty similar to what you describe.
fsflover 6y ago
But it's not e2e encrypted.
- SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
  How could you access end-to-end encrypted cloud storage from multiple devices? It's still encrypted, and in multiple jurisdictions so a legal order in any single jurisdiction only decrypts one layer of encryption. "Telegram is a cloud service. We store messages, photos, videos and documents from your cloud chats on our servers so that you can access your data from any of your devices anytime without having to rely on third-party backups. All data is stored heavily encrypted and the encryption keys in each case are stored in several other data centers in different jurisdictions. This way local engineers or physical intruders cannot get access to user data." https://telegram.org/privacy https://telegram.org/privacy They also offer end-to-end encrypted secret chats, which are not uploaded to the cloud and only available on the device on which they were initiated. You are free not to trust them. But I do.
  - fsflover 6y ago
    > How could you access end-to-end encrypted cloud storage from multiple devices? By sharing your key between the devices. > a legal order in any single jurisdiction only decrypts one layer of encryption That's good to know, but it's not the cutting edge of security. (For many people it's of course enough) > They also offer end-to-end encrypted secret chats Not on desktop and not on GNU/Linux phones (which I use).
    - SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
      > By sharing your key between the devices. That would be a nice feature. > but it's not the cutting edge of security. That's true. > Not on desktop and not on GNU/Linux phones (which I use). That's unfortunate, but luckily the clients are open source, and anybody can create a new client for the platform of their choice. Telegram even provides a cross-platform API library: https://core.telegram.org/tdlib https://core.telegram.org/tdlib ` TDLib can be used on Android, iOS, Windows, macOS, Linux, WebAssembly, FreeBSD, Windows Phone, watchOS, tvOS, Tizen, Cygwin. It should also work on other *nix systems with or without minimal effort. `