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Speaking for myself? Content. Philip Glass has 27 albums on Pandora, 105 on Spotify. Nico Mulhy? 7 vs 14. Maarja Nuut. Only 1 album on Pandora. For her, Pandora

by RogerL 6y ago

Speaking for myself? Content. Philip Glass has 27 albums on Pandora, 105 on Spotify. Nico Mulhy? 7 vs 14. Maarja Nuut. Only 1 album on Pandora. For her, Pandora makes no recommendations for others to listen to, Spotify lists 20. Pandora has no bio, Spotify does. Third Coast Percussion? 8 vs 10. I'm just randomly clicking in my library and doing a comparison, they aren't artfully chosen examples. I recognize this isn't mainstream listening, and for all I know the ratios are reversed for more popular music. I found the Pandora choices of songs annoying. I love Philip Glass; I don't want to listen to a bunch of other people playing triplets against eighths. It's derivative and boring in comparison. I do want to listen to his contemporaries that compose in different ways. Or let's take Nuut again. I came across her recently while surveying contemporary Estonian composers. Pandora doesn't let me do that so far as I can tell. I'm interested in what is going on there compositionally over the last 2 decades, I am not looking for another person that writes something that is very 'similar" (according to the Pandora algorithms). Finally, I never use shuffle. So much of what i listen to are I understand my use case is not the only one, but neither is yours! People select different apps because they provide what the person wants.

sundvor 6y ago
You could check out YouTube Music (edit: changed from "music"), which has a long list of Philip Glass titles that may be up there with Spotify. I gave up on Spotify when they removed the widget functionality on Android. I know they returned it eventually, but not without complete uproar. It burned myself as a decade old (family) premium user though; I used to love them, but that complete disregard completely changed that. Now, only a 3 month minimum (6 would help) completely free retrial would get me back. Thus far, none has been received. (On the flip side I absolutely love YouTube Red or Premium or whatever they call it these days.)
- colinmhayes 6y ago
  Youtube's organization of music is horrible. It clearly wasn't made for listening to music.
  - tyrust 6y ago
    I assume they were talking about Youtube Music (https://music.youtube.com/ https://music.youtube.com/), which is made for listening to music.
    - lambda_obrien 6y ago
      I used Google Music until they discontinued it in favor of Youtube Music, and I ditched that crap immediately, the UI was horrible, the recommendations were BAD (Google Music was somewhat good), and I lost about half my playlist items as "not available". It is so bad, that after years of Google Music, I just ditched my playlists (what little there was) and moved to Spotify.
      - shostack 6y ago
        I just tried listening to some uploaded music last night. Except the Artists page seems to be in random order vs alphabetical and there is no apparent sort option. I'm not sure how that decision played out.
      - lkbm 6y ago
        I find the YT Music recs actually pretty good, though the "recommending a song after I thumbed down" behavior blows my mind in its idiocy. Also, the fact that they don't distinguish between me liking a video on Youtube and liking a song in YT Music is also frustrating. The UI is the worst I've seen on any music service or player, but I'd found quite a bit of music I like through their recommendations.
        kevincox 6y ago
        I reported the bug about recommending songs that I had downvoted. Apparently I had more thank 5k downvotes so it didn't consider them all in the filter. The "fix" was bumping the limit. I used to pay for Google Music and transitioned to YouTube Music but eventually gave up because it has so many issues. I also tried Spotify but didn't like it much so now I don't know what I will use.
    - 6y ago
- chewz 6y ago
  While Youtube Music is a bag of some great ideas and implementation that went horribly wrong I have started using it over Spotify recently. Youtube Music implementation of Chromecast is spotless while Spotify every so often interupts with "Your spotify account is used on another device" (Not true just checking my phone). In general Youtube is also tolerant of using two devices with the same account for a few moments. And no podcasts in the music app... Hurah...
oorza 6y ago
I don't have anything to add but to say I'm glad someone else has discovered the beauty of coding to Glass's works.
- dwd 6y ago
  Been listening to Glass's excellent score for Tales from the Loop for a few weeks now. It's my current goto album for coding.
lucasgw 6y ago
If Glass is your thing, I highly recommend Idagio. It is explicitly focused on Classical, and its filtering is focused on what you'd want out of a Classical-focused search. For instance, with Glass - there are 171 albums on Idagio. And it breaks them down with works, instrumentation, ensembles, soloists, genres (piano solo, chamber, secular vocal. etc.), conductors, and recording date. If you want to compare the 22 piano solo albums that Jeroen van Veen has recorded of Glass's music - easy to pull all of them up quickly. Their encoding is also vastly superior to Spotify or (yikes) YouTube Music. If you have a decent signal-chain for listening, high-quality components, and enjoy Classical... Idagio is head-and-shoulders above the rest.

by RogerL 6y ago

sundvor 6y ago

You could check out YouTube Music (edit: changed from "music"), which has a long list of Philip Glass titles that may be up there with Spotify. I gave up on Spotify when they removed the widget functionality on Android. I know they returned it eventually, but not without complete uproar. It burned myself as a decade old (family) premium user though; I used to love them, but that complete disregard completely changed that. Now, only a 3 month minimum (6 would help) completely free retrial would get me back. Thus far, none has been received. (On the flip side I absolutely love YouTube Red or Premium or whatever they call it these days.)

colinmhayes 6y ago
Youtube's organization of music is horrible. It clearly wasn't made for listening to music.
- tyrust 6y ago
  I assume they were talking about Youtube Music (https://music.youtube.com/ https://music.youtube.com/), which is made for listening to music.
  - lambda_obrien 6y ago
    I used Google Music until they discontinued it in favor of Youtube Music, and I ditched that crap immediately, the UI was horrible, the recommendations were BAD (Google Music was somewhat good), and I lost about half my playlist items as "not available". It is so bad, that after years of Google Music, I just ditched my playlists (what little there was) and moved to Spotify.
    - shostack 6y ago
      I just tried listening to some uploaded music last night. Except the Artists page seems to be in random order vs alphabetical and there is no apparent sort option. I'm not sure how that decision played out.
    - lkbm 6y ago
      I find the YT Music recs actually pretty good, though the "recommending a song after I thumbed down" behavior blows my mind in its idiocy. Also, the fact that they don't distinguish between me liking a video on Youtube and liking a song in YT Music is also frustrating. The UI is the worst I've seen on any music service or player, but I'd found quite a bit of music I like through their recommendations.
      - kevincox 6y ago
        I reported the bug about recommending songs that I had downvoted. Apparently I had more thank 5k downvotes so it didn't consider them all in the filter. The "fix" was bumping the limit. I used to pay for Google Music and transitioned to YouTube Music but eventually gave up because it has so many issues. I also tried Spotify but didn't like it much so now I don't know what I will use.
  - 6y ago
chewz 6y ago
While Youtube Music is a bag of some great ideas and implementation that went horribly wrong I have started using it over Spotify recently. Youtube Music implementation of Chromecast is spotless while Spotify every so often interupts with "Your spotify account is used on another device" (Not true just checking my phone). In general Youtube is also tolerant of using two devices with the same account for a few moments. And no podcasts in the music app... Hurah...

oorza 6y ago

I don't have anything to add but to say I'm glad someone else has discovered the beauty of coding to Glass's works.

dwd 6y ago
Been listening to Glass's excellent score for Tales from the Loop for a few weeks now. It's my current goto album for coding.

lucasgw 6y ago

If Glass is your thing, I highly recommend Idagio. It is explicitly focused on Classical, and its filtering is focused on what you'd want out of a Classical-focused search. For instance, with Glass - there are 171 albums on Idagio. And it breaks them down with works, instrumentation, ensembles, soloists, genres (piano solo, chamber, secular vocal. etc.), conductors, and recording date. If you want to compare the 22 piano solo albums that Jeroen van Veen has recorded of Glass's music - easy to pull all of them up quickly. Their encoding is also vastly superior to Spotify or (yikes) YouTube Music. If you have a decent signal-chain for listening, high-quality components, and enjoy Classical... Idagio is head-and-shoulders above the rest.