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Please don't use it. Just boycott it. If an app is not available outside the app store, email them and ask them to make it available. Remind them that they are

Please don't use it. Just boycott it. If an app is not available outside the app store, email them and ask them to make it available. Remind them that they are being fools to add value to the app store as it reduces their options and makes them more dependent on Apple. This will allow Apple to gauge even more money from them in the future. App stores also kill otherwise free open-source projects as it adds an unnecessary financial burden on them. Remind them we have been doing fine without it on the desktop for decades now. Ask them why PAYING Apple for the privilege of adding VALUE to the macOS platform - by developing and distributing their wares on that platform - doesn't make them feel like a jackass!? Apple should be the one paying them for creating value for the macOS platform!

Razengan 6y ago
What the fuck, no. The App Store protects users from shitty developers and scummy companies. Users appreciate that. People like having a single point for discovery, reviews, updates, and refunds. Every time an third-party app turned out to be different than advertised Apple refunded me within a day. Meanwhile an app which uses their own payments system screwed me over a month ago and I'm still waiting for a response from them. Doesn't campaigning for depriving users of the choice to use the App Store make you "feel like a jackass!?"
- webmobdev 6y ago
  > Doesn't campaigning for depriving users of the choice to use the App Store make you "feel like a jackass!?" What "CHOICE" are you blabbering about? Can you install an app on the ios independently without resorting to risky jailbreaking on your iDevice? With similar closed Apple ARM processors (like in the iDevices) now on the Mac platform too, Apple is moving towards denying us CHOICE on the macOS platform too. (And for all those who want to reply that this is not going to happen, Apple is boiling the frog slowly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog ... Apart from the closed Apple ARM processors, the latest version of the macOS already CRIPPLES firewalls to allow any Apple authorised application to bypass the firewalls to spy better on its users, and to exert more control over the device (worst case e.g. killswitch).
  - Razengan 6y ago
    > Apple is moving towards denying us CHOICE on the macOS platform too. (And for all those who want to reply that this is not going to happen, Apple is boiling the frog slowly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
    - webmobdev 6y ago
      You can be an Apple fanboi, but you have to be real naive one to believe that Apple doesn't want to increase their billion dollar+ profit margins through the app store by making the macOS a closed platform like the ios too. (And yes, the app store can be successful only in a closed platform where Apple dictates how - and what - software you can install on it.)
racl101 6y ago
> Please don't use it. Just boycott it. I definitely try my best. Even for downloading Xcode and/or MacOS system updates I will try to scour the Apple dev sites for proper installers.

Razengan 6y ago

What the fuck, no. The App Store protects users from shitty developers and scummy companies. Users appreciate that. People like having a single point for discovery, reviews, updates, and refunds. Every time an third-party app turned out to be different than advertised Apple refunded me within a day. Meanwhile an app which uses their own payments system screwed me over a month ago and I'm still waiting for a response from them. Doesn't campaigning for depriving users of the choice to use the App Store make you "feel like a jackass!?"

webmobdev 6y ago
> Doesn't campaigning for depriving users of the choice to use the App Store make you "feel like a jackass!?" What "CHOICE" are you blabbering about? Can you install an app on the ios independently without resorting to risky jailbreaking on your iDevice? With similar closed Apple ARM processors (like in the iDevices) now on the Mac platform too, Apple is moving towards denying us CHOICE on the macOS platform too. (And for all those who want to reply that this is not going to happen, Apple is boiling the frog slowly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog ... Apart from the closed Apple ARM processors, the latest version of the macOS already CRIPPLES firewalls to allow any Apple authorised application to bypass the firewalls to spy better on its users, and to exert more control over the device (worst case e.g. killswitch).
- Razengan 6y ago
  > Apple is moving towards denying us CHOICE on the macOS platform too. (And for all those who want to reply that this is not going to happen, Apple is boiling the frog slowly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
  - webmobdev 6y ago
    You can be an Apple fanboi, but you have to be real naive one to believe that Apple doesn't want to increase their billion dollar+ profit margins through the app store by making the macOS a closed platform like the ios too. (And yes, the app store can be successful only in a closed platform where Apple dictates how - and what - software you can install on it.)

racl101 6y ago

> Please don't use it. Just boycott it. I definitely try my best. Even for downloading Xcode and/or MacOS system updates I will try to scour the Apple dev sites for proper installers.