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It may depend on your hardware. If it wasn’t made to support Free software it likely doesn’t — particularly for firmware for WiFi cards or Nvidia graphics, whic

It may depend on your hardware. If it wasn’t made to support Free software it likely doesn’t — particularly for firmware for WiFi cards or Nvidia graphics, which PureOS should not have packages for. Would appreciate an explanation from whoever was downvoting you before.

teodorlu 6y ago
Thanks. I'm currently on a Thinkpad T490s. Intel WiFi and Intel graphics unless I'm mistaken.
- boogies 6y ago
  No problem. I’d recommend trying it out live, you can get it at https://www.pureos.net/download/ https://www.pureos.net/download/ and then follow the installation instructions (https://tracker.pureos.net/w/installation_guide/live_system_installation/ https://tracker.pureos.net/w/installation_guide/live_system_...) from there if it works well (make sure to copy your /home directory/partition first if you want to keep it), or not install (and maybe try purifying Ubuntu or Debian a bit with the `vrms` package’s assistance) if it doesn’t.
- fsflover 6y ago
  There are no laptops in the market which support free firmware for WiFi, except those from Purism. So PureOS (without installing additional non-free software) will not work for you. Alternatively one could use this: https://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wireless-adapter-gnu-linux-libre-tet-n150 https://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wireless-adapter-gnu-linux-l....
  - boogies 6y ago
    > There are no laptops in the market which support free firmware for WiFi, except those from Purism. There are at least the handful the FSF RYF certifies.¹ Unfortunately you do appear correct about Intel WiFi not having Free software support² (though that adapter certainly should). ¹https://ryf.fsf.org/categories/laptops https://ryf.fsf.org/categories/laptops ²https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/Intel-Corporation/undef/undef/undef/wifi-works/undef https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/Intel-Corporation/u...
    - ipodopt 6y ago
      I recall running into issues with WiFi firmware from Purism. I installed the prop. driver and got some improvement. Although, I ended up upgrading the wifi chip altogether in the end.
      - fsflover 6y ago
        The problem is the lack of freedom-respecting WiFi hardware which supports 802.11ac/ad/ah/ax: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#26-why-doesnt-the-librem-5-support-new-wi-fi-standards-80211acadahax https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque....
    - fsflover 6y ago
      Yes, there are indeed RYF-certified laptops supporting free WiFi firmware, but they are now vulnerable to Spectre, Meltdown etc, and not fixable. So unfortunately this is not very secure to use them...

teodorlu 6y ago

Thanks. I'm currently on a Thinkpad T490s. Intel WiFi and Intel graphics unless I'm mistaken.

boogies 6y ago
No problem. I’d recommend trying it out live, you can get it at https://www.pureos.net/download/ https://www.pureos.net/download/ and then follow the installation instructions (https://tracker.pureos.net/w/installation_guide/live_system_installation/ https://tracker.pureos.net/w/installation_guide/live_system_...) from there if it works well (make sure to copy your /home directory/partition first if you want to keep it), or not install (and maybe try purifying Ubuntu or Debian a bit with the `vrms` package’s assistance) if it doesn’t.
fsflover 6y ago
There are no laptops in the market which support free firmware for WiFi, except those from Purism. So PureOS (without installing additional non-free software) will not work for you. Alternatively one could use this: https://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wireless-adapter-gnu-linux-libre-tet-n150 https://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wireless-adapter-gnu-linux-l....
- boogies 6y ago
  > There are no laptops in the market which support free firmware for WiFi, except those from Purism. There are at least the handful the FSF RYF certifies.¹ Unfortunately you do appear correct about Intel WiFi not having Free software support² (though that adapter certainly should). ¹https://ryf.fsf.org/categories/laptops https://ryf.fsf.org/categories/laptops ²https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/Intel-Corporation/undef/undef/undef/wifi-works/undef https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/Intel-Corporation/u...
  - ipodopt 6y ago
    I recall running into issues with WiFi firmware from Purism. I installed the prop. driver and got some improvement. Although, I ended up upgrading the wifi chip altogether in the end.
    - fsflover 6y ago
      The problem is the lack of freedom-respecting WiFi hardware which supports 802.11ac/ad/ah/ax: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#26-why-doesnt-the-librem-5-support-new-wi-fi-standards-80211acadahax https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque....
  - fsflover 6y ago
    Yes, there are indeed RYF-certified laptops supporting free WiFi firmware, but they are now vulnerable to Spectre, Meltdown etc, and not fixable. So unfortunately this is not very secure to use them...