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> The train wreck that is instant messaging makes me realize how incredibly lucky we are to have email. Isn't the opposite of xkcd 927 a monopoly? If we're ta
by ValentineC 6y ago
> The train wreck that is instant messaging makes me realize how incredibly lucky we are to have email.
Isn't the opposite of xkcd 927 a monopoly?
If we're talking about a federated standard, we had XMPP [1], but nobody who can create user-friendly apps seems to want to adopt it.
[1] https://xmpp.org/ https://xmpp.org/
- mminer237 6y agoThe advantage of XMPP is that you don't have to use the official site/app. It's not surprising that Facebook and Google removed support when they both rely on ads on their sites to fund their businesses.
- _flux 6y agoEmail or the phone networks aren't global monopolies, are they? They even got text messages working globally—no idea about MMS though. So maybe there's a way to make a globally non-island IM that works in the Internet as well; or maybe with islands that can work with each other if that's how it must be. Sadly I doubt this will not happen without regulation; it worked for the telephone network, though email happened without.
- MattJ100 6y agoSnikket[1] is an attempt at creating (maybe better "curating", as we're not starting from scratch) a suite of well-integrated user-friendly XMPP software (a server, and a single app for each platform). The server is available as a Docker image, though we're still working on things like a web admin. Android app is available, the iOS app is due to enter beta in a month or two. This is a personal thing for me. This year I migrated my family to XMPP from WhatsApp (at least for communicating with each other), and I want others to be able to do the same. Trying to make it a sustainable project (it's 100% open-source). [1]: https://snikket.org/ https://snikket.org/