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Actually, the iPhone may be unusable, but it wouldn't be anything new for a phone with 3G support. On edge my old iPhone lasted 4-5 hours constantly on IRC. I

Actually, the iPhone may be unusable, but it wouldn't be anything new for a phone with 3G support. On edge my old iPhone lasted 4-5 hours constantly on IRC. I can't even sporadically browse that long on a browser on many 3G phones, not just the iPhone but also the likes of the samsung blackjack and the htc/at&t tilt. There is no way in hell I would be able to stay on IRC for a reasonable amount of time with that kind of battery suckage. I appreciate some aspects of the push notification service Apple is willing to provide, but I disagree with some of them, and obviously for others they would not work (ugh, again, IRC). Also, I might note that a lot of these limitations put in place by Apple may be moot with the jailbreak (which I know many users would be reluctant to do, but if you were a hacker willing to deal with the possible consequences in exchange for having a slightly more open device, it's worth thinking about).

trezor 18y ago
Agreed. Any 3G phone I've had has had significantly less battery-time than your usual edge phone. This is not a iPhone-only issue, and I'm not saying it is. However: The decision on how to use that limited battery-time should be mine to make, and certainly not left to a phone-manufacturer trying to protect their own image.
- silencio 18y ago
  True, but judging from what I've been reading for the last couple weeks, people who've had subpar experiences with apps are blaming the phone and not the app when the app was really at fault. When I consider that, I couldn't blame Apple for trying to protect the image because it's not only a 3G phone with already awful battery life, it's a 3G phone with a non-removable battery. Stupid design mistake or not, it's quite possibly one of the only phones that is like that and that makes the problem worse. I don't disagree with you, truth be told my first app idea for the iPhone became an impossibility when I heard about that background limitation. But I can sort of get why Apple wants to do that.

trezor 18y ago

Agreed. Any 3G phone I've had has had significantly less battery-time than your usual edge phone. This is not a iPhone-only issue, and I'm not saying it is. However: The decision on how to use that limited battery-time should be mine to make, and certainly not left to a phone-manufacturer trying to protect their own image.

silencio 18y ago
True, but judging from what I've been reading for the last couple weeks, people who've had subpar experiences with apps are blaming the phone and not the app when the app was really at fault. When I consider that, I couldn't blame Apple for trying to protect the image because it's not only a 3G phone with already awful battery life, it's a 3G phone with a non-removable battery. Stupid design mistake or not, it's quite possibly one of the only phones that is like that and that makes the problem worse. I don't disagree with you, truth be told my first app idea for the iPhone became an impossibility when I heard about that background limitation. But I can sort of get why Apple wants to do that.