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The “sensitive topics” extra review seems completely fair and obviously necessary. Anyone acting like that amounts to censorship in a private company is totally
by mlthoughts2018 6y ago
The “sensitive topics” extra review seems completely fair and obviously necessary. Anyone acting like that amounts to censorship in a private company is totally off their rocker.
This article seems really weak, and of course there’s the obligatory attempt to tie it in with Timnit Gebru’s resignation and her very inappropriate behavior, even though for all of Google’s flaws, Google clearly and obviously did the right thing both to disapprove Gebru’s weak paper and accept her resignation based on her ultimatum.
- ClumsyPilot 6y ago"Gebru’s weak paper" Could you please back up your claim as to the paper's quality - do yoy have credentials and background that enable you to cast this judgement, or is this pedestrian?
- free_rms 6y agoI don't need credentials to read a paper which muses about current events. You want to outsource your thinking to the credentialed? Go ahead but the rest of us don't have to. The paper is out there and it's quite easy to read, because it's not saying a whole lot.
- bonoboTP 6y agoIt has leaked. Activism masquerading as science. Yes, people also call critical race theory and intersectional theory academic disciplines. They hold conferences, have titles and credentials, are professors, etc. So yes the paper is high quality for a certain niche. It's not a technical paper for not a technical conference. It's a "raising awareness" paper on identity politics beating the same drum, without much novel insight or analysis or new data. But yes, it has 120 or 200 citations, a fact that was proudly highlighted by authors on Twitter to underline the scholarly quality. Yes, gender seminars and whiteness workshops are also properly credentialed. Theology is also a discipline but perhaps not the same as sciences. Quality is indeed relative.
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 6y agoCan you share a link to it? I’ve followed the situation but not seen the paper itself yet. Very interested to read it and judge for myself.
- bonoboTP 6y agohttps://www.docdroid.net/HZvDVwN/sp1-pdf https://www.docdroid.net/HZvDVwN/sp1-pdf or https://bunkerchan.xyz/.media/de21413543c09ac6d02aa5eeb0842461-applicationpdf.pdf https://bunkerchan.xyz/.media/de21413543c09ac6d02aa5eeb08424...
- mlthoughts2018 6y agoSure, I wrote a lot about this already when the paper leaked, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25314824 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25314824
- bonoboTP 6y agoThe full paper is also out there, circulating on various file upload sites. Your points stand even to the full text.