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>it seems to assume the subject is now the love of my life christ, no kidding. this was my first clue that google has fundamentally changed as a company and it

>it seems to assume the subject is now the love of my life christ, no kidding. this was my first clue that google has fundamentally changed as a company and it was time for me to leave. ive been using gmail since it came out and watching YouTube with a signed-in, non adblocked experience for years. the algorithim doest give a SHIT. if i watch one "The Office" clip, thats suddenly 60-80% of my feed despite the fact that i dont particularly like the show. im not sure what theyve doing with all my data theyve been harvesting like gollum, but it sure isnt being used for my benefit. (i dont have kide, no one else uses my account, dont watch youtube through vpn, etc etc) and dont get me started on the ads. ive never installed an anime girl fighting game, from gplay or anywhere else. stop it.

gaudat 6y ago
Oh the ads. I cannot underestimate the annoyance it has caused to viewers. Seeing the numerous memes making fun of those asset flip adware turned "games" makes me die a little inside. Now I actively push my normie friends to install uBlock Origin on their devices. And Vanced or NewPipe when it worked.
- jimktrains2 6y ago
  The midrolls are nearly always in an awful spot in the video and especially when watching something on a serious topic so jaring. At least most television ads are placed in a slot designed for ads to be there. Though I still find them jaring for shows that arent up-beat. To be honest, tv ads are the reason we dont watch a lot of TV anymore. The ad:content ratio is too high, and youtube has definitely as high or higher without an adblocker.
- dageshi 6y ago
  You could just pay for youtube premium?
  - Aeronwen 6y ago
    No dark pattern there.
    - dageshi 6y ago
      How else do you suggest youtube pays its costs? It probably uses more bandwidth and quite possibly more storage than just about any other website on the net.
    - WaitWaitWha 6y ago
      I have no idea what you are referring to. This has never ended badly for consumers. Why, I remember when cable came out. For a small monthly fee we could get rid of all the advertising. That turned out ... just... oh wait. Okay, then Sirius Satellite! All those ads on the radio? Just get Sirius at a small monthly fee, and bam! All ads will... be... gone... forever... Well, uhmmm... Okay. Never mind. /s
  - jimktrains2 6y ago
    Does youtube even advertise it? I would guess I would have to go into my profile and find it there, but I've never seen it mentioned by youtube. Edit: Also, I think many are jaded by cable where you pay and still get ads. Hulu has an ad-free tier, but I forget the history and if that's existed from the start. I do remember there being a lot of outrage about paying and still getting ads at some point.
  - Fifer82 6y ago
    I pay for YouTube Premium in Rupees. It's £1.36 a month. One of the weird things tho, is that I didn't see Ads with Ad Blocker. Is there some regional thing that ad blocker doesn't work in the USA but it works elsewhere?
dkersten 6y ago
They have no problems showing me ads for exploitive garbage like raid shadow legends or some other shit I will never ever ever install or buy. And then they tell us they use the data for serving “more relevant” adverts? I call BS.
dageshi 6y ago
I suspect there's a simple explanation. Sometimes people go on massive subject binges and there's likely certain videos that are more likely to trigger this than others. If you watched one the youtube algorithm is basically asking if you'd like to binge the rest because a lot of other people did. In terms of watch time and retention on site I imagine those binges are gold hence why they've ended up being optimised for.

gaudat 6y ago

Oh the ads. I cannot underestimate the annoyance it has caused to viewers. Seeing the numerous memes making fun of those asset flip adware turned "games" makes me die a little inside. Now I actively push my normie friends to install uBlock Origin on their devices. And Vanced or NewPipe when it worked.

jimktrains2 6y ago
The midrolls are nearly always in an awful spot in the video and especially when watching something on a serious topic so jaring. At least most television ads are placed in a slot designed for ads to be there. Though I still find them jaring for shows that arent up-beat. To be honest, tv ads are the reason we dont watch a lot of TV anymore. The ad:content ratio is too high, and youtube has definitely as high or higher without an adblocker.
dageshi 6y ago
You could just pay for youtube premium?
- Aeronwen 6y ago
  No dark pattern there.
  - dageshi 6y ago
    How else do you suggest youtube pays its costs? It probably uses more bandwidth and quite possibly more storage than just about any other website on the net.
  - WaitWaitWha 6y ago
    I have no idea what you are referring to. This has never ended badly for consumers. Why, I remember when cable came out. For a small monthly fee we could get rid of all the advertising. That turned out ... just... oh wait. Okay, then Sirius Satellite! All those ads on the radio? Just get Sirius at a small monthly fee, and bam! All ads will... be... gone... forever... Well, uhmmm... Okay. Never mind. /s
- jimktrains2 6y ago
  Does youtube even advertise it? I would guess I would have to go into my profile and find it there, but I've never seen it mentioned by youtube. Edit: Also, I think many are jaded by cable where you pay and still get ads. Hulu has an ad-free tier, but I forget the history and if that's existed from the start. I do remember there being a lot of outrage about paying and still getting ads at some point.
- Fifer82 6y ago
  I pay for YouTube Premium in Rupees. It's £1.36 a month. One of the weird things tho, is that I didn't see Ads with Ad Blocker. Is there some regional thing that ad blocker doesn't work in the USA but it works elsewhere?

dkersten 6y ago

They have no problems showing me ads for exploitive garbage like raid shadow legends or some other shit I will never ever ever install or buy. And then they tell us they use the data for serving “more relevant” adverts? I call BS.

dageshi 6y ago

I suspect there's a simple explanation. Sometimes people go on massive subject binges and there's likely certain videos that are more likely to trigger this than others. If you watched one the youtube algorithm is basically asking if you'd like to binge the rest because a lot of other people did. In terms of watch time and retention on site I imagine those binges are gold hence why they've ended up being optimised for.