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highest annual budget in the Solar System, most likely in the entire Milky Way It has some funnny side-effects: If you manage to land a job there, you'll get p

highest annual budget in the Solar System, most likely in the entire Milky Way It has some funnny side-effects: If you manage to land a job there, you'll get paid under the same scheme as public servants, which means that e.g. if you're a camera man you earn as much as a doctor at a public clinic as long as you have a university degree. The fun part comes when public broadcasters produce segments with a political slant towards anti-capitalism or towards poor people voting populist – and you know that each member of the film crew makes more than 90% of German households.

_fizz_buzz_ 6y ago
> if you're a camera man you earn as much as a doctor at a public clinic as long as you have a university degree That is most definitely not true. This is not how the system works. There is a fixed table with different tiers. But not everyone with a university degree is in the same tier. It still very much depends on the job you are working.
fsh 6y ago
This is not true. Public servants are paid according to a different pay scale (TVöD [1]) than doctors at public hospitals (TV-Ärzte [2]). With a university degree, you get at most TVöD E13 (sometimes only E11), which is lower than the lowest pay grade for hospital doctors. [1] https://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/c/t/rechner/tvoed/bund?id=tvoed-bund-2020&matrix=1 https://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/c/t/rechner/tvoed/bund?id=... [2] https://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/c/t/rechner/aerzte/kommunal?id=tv-aerzte-vka-2020&matrix=1 https://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/c/t/rechner/aerzte/kommuna...
- thg 6y ago
  If only the Rundfunkanstalten would actually pay according to public servant scale, our mandatory GEZ tax would be half of what it actually is. The WDR for example has a median pay of 130.000 Euros / year (+ pensions) across their 4.500 employees. That's not only * a lot* more than any public servant gets, it's more than you can earn at top DAX companies. The GP was wrong in claiming they're being paid under the same scheme as public servants, but they weren't wrong in calling them out for earning insane amounts of money. Now if only we'd actually get decent stuff in return, instead of 15 different talk shows that all have to be broadcast at the exact same time. Some of the stuff they produce is absolutely useful and of great quality, but that's maybe 5% of their entire program (across TV and radio) at best. I'd much rather pay for quality content like the BBC puts out, than Tom Buhrow's 400k Euro salary and "journalists" that ignore and fabricate facts just to have a sensationalized story[0] and then don't even face any repercussions for it. [0] German: https://www.mitteldeutsches-journal.com/2020/02/28/recherche-skandal-um-swr-reporterin-judith-brosel-der-fall-erinnert-an-claas-relotius/ https://www.mitteldeutsches-journal.com/2020/02/28/recherche...
- realityking 6y ago
  And the public broadcasters have their own contracts. Here’s the one for WDR, the biggest ARD unit: https://wdr.verdi.de/++file++5657188a7713b86a6f000258/download/Verguetungstarifvertrag_WDR.pdf https://wdr.verdi.de/++file++5657188a7713b86a6f000258/downlo... Camera operators are group 5 and make between 3600 and 5100 Euro. (There are higher level position they can achieve up to 1. camera operator, which tops out at 7000€)
germanier 6y ago
Most camera operators work as so-called "fixed freelancers" and are not paid by any salary scheme at all. The payment scheme (as others have noted) is not the same. In addition, none of the payment schemes gives you a certain salary level just because you hold a university degree. The get to a certain level you have to in addition perform duties designated for that level, which a camera operator is not.

_fizz_buzz_ 6y ago

> if you're a camera man you earn as much as a doctor at a public clinic as long as you have a university degree That is most definitely not true. This is not how the system works. There is a fixed table with different tiers. But not everyone with a university degree is in the same tier. It still very much depends on the job you are working.

fsh 6y ago

This is not true. Public servants are paid according to a different pay scale (TVöD [1]) than doctors at public hospitals (TV-Ärzte [2]). With a university degree, you get at most TVöD E13 (sometimes only E11), which is lower than the lowest pay grade for hospital doctors. [1] https://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/c/t/rechner/tvoed/bund?id=tvoed-bund-2020&matrix=1 https://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/c/t/rechner/tvoed/bund?id=... [2] https://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/c/t/rechner/aerzte/kommunal?id=tv-aerzte-vka-2020&matrix=1 https://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/c/t/rechner/aerzte/kommuna...

thg 6y ago
If only the Rundfunkanstalten would actually pay according to public servant scale, our mandatory GEZ tax would be half of what it actually is. The WDR for example has a median pay of 130.000 Euros / year (+ pensions) across their 4.500 employees. That's not only * a lot* more than any public servant gets, it's more than you can earn at top DAX companies. The GP was wrong in claiming they're being paid under the same scheme as public servants, but they weren't wrong in calling them out for earning insane amounts of money. Now if only we'd actually get decent stuff in return, instead of 15 different talk shows that all have to be broadcast at the exact same time. Some of the stuff they produce is absolutely useful and of great quality, but that's maybe 5% of their entire program (across TV and radio) at best. I'd much rather pay for quality content like the BBC puts out, than Tom Buhrow's 400k Euro salary and "journalists" that ignore and fabricate facts just to have a sensationalized story[0] and then don't even face any repercussions for it. [0] German: https://www.mitteldeutsches-journal.com/2020/02/28/recherche-skandal-um-swr-reporterin-judith-brosel-der-fall-erinnert-an-claas-relotius/ https://www.mitteldeutsches-journal.com/2020/02/28/recherche...
realityking 6y ago
And the public broadcasters have their own contracts. Here’s the one for WDR, the biggest ARD unit: https://wdr.verdi.de/++file++5657188a7713b86a6f000258/download/Verguetungstarifvertrag_WDR.pdf https://wdr.verdi.de/++file++5657188a7713b86a6f000258/downlo... Camera operators are group 5 and make between 3600 and 5100 Euro. (There are higher level position they can achieve up to 1. camera operator, which tops out at 7000€)

germanier 6y ago

Most camera operators work as so-called "fixed freelancers" and are not paid by any salary scheme at all. The payment scheme (as others have noted) is not the same. In addition, none of the payment schemes gives you a certain salary level just because you hold a university degree. The get to a certain level you have to in addition perform duties designated for that level, which a camera operator is not.