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One thing I just remembered: Previous to Michael Vick's very public dog fighting bust in 2007 most dogs were destroyed after being seized from dog fighting(1).

One thing I just remembered: Previous to Michael Vick's very public dog fighting bust in 2007 most dogs were destroyed after being seized from dog fighting(1). After Michael Vick's exposure organizations popped up to save these dogs. Now saving pit bulls is more popular than ever but not every shelter has the resources to do it. 1. https://www.npr.org/2019/09/26/764790714/what-happened-to-the-dogs-in-michael-vicks-dogfighting-operation https://www.npr.org/2019/09/26/764790714/what-happened-to-th...

sn_master 6y ago
And in many cases shelters were caught lying about the breed of pit bulls. https://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/neighborhood-politics-hidden/361-petwatch/14025-is-la-animal-service-s-gm-trying-to-hide-pit-bull-history-to-hype-adoptions https://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/neighborhood-politics-...
- michaelmrose 6y ago
  They aren't lying about the breed of dog they aren't providing the shelters best guess as to the dog breed to the prospective owners prior to adoption. More to the point the link doesn't even state anyone was "caught" doing anything. This is literally you misrepresenting what your own link actually states. In essence you were literally in the comment where you say they were caught lying the only one caught lying.
  - sn_master 6y ago
    Huh, sorry about that. There you go, much more specific cases and scientific studies from reputed sources as they get: https://www.aaha.org/publications/newstat/articles/2018-08/genetic-testing-shows-animal-shelters-often-get-breeds-wrong-and-not-always-by-mistake/ https://www.aaha.org/publications/newstat/articles/2018-08/g... https://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/03/18/Many-shelter-dogs-mislabeled-pit-bulls/stories/201203180054 https://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/03/18/Many-shelter-do...
michaelmrose 6y ago
To be clear they evaluated the dogs and adopted the ones that could be homed and placed the rest in a non family setting so that they could rehab them before being adopted out. To revisit the prior statement you made >but I don't think these shelters should be pushing these dogs onto families. Especially ones that have killed family pets before and are being advertised as "good with children" If the article is intended to support that never defended position it does not do so. In order to evaluate that a journalist or interested party would need to investigate the adoption procedure and figure out if adopting families were properly informed. Furthermore to be clear 3.2 million dogs are adopted from shelters. I was unable to ascertain how many dogs are rescued from dog fighting rings annually but surmise it is probably measured at most in the hundreds. This is to say that something on the over of 1 dog in 10,000 is a refugee from dog fighting. The fate of a tiny number of ex fighting dogs is of almost no relevance to the overall pitbull question.

sn_master 6y ago

And in many cases shelters were caught lying about the breed of pit bulls. https://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/neighborhood-politics-hidden/361-petwatch/14025-is-la-animal-service-s-gm-trying-to-hide-pit-bull-history-to-hype-adoptions https://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/neighborhood-politics-...

michaelmrose 6y ago
They aren't lying about the breed of dog they aren't providing the shelters best guess as to the dog breed to the prospective owners prior to adoption. More to the point the link doesn't even state anyone was "caught" doing anything. This is literally you misrepresenting what your own link actually states. In essence you were literally in the comment where you say they were caught lying the only one caught lying.
- sn_master 6y ago
  Huh, sorry about that. There you go, much more specific cases and scientific studies from reputed sources as they get: https://www.aaha.org/publications/newstat/articles/2018-08/genetic-testing-shows-animal-shelters-often-get-breeds-wrong-and-not-always-by-mistake/ https://www.aaha.org/publications/newstat/articles/2018-08/g... https://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/03/18/Many-shelter-dogs-mislabeled-pit-bulls/stories/201203180054 https://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/03/18/Many-shelter-do...

michaelmrose 6y ago

To be clear they evaluated the dogs and adopted the ones that could be homed and placed the rest in a non family setting so that they could rehab them before being adopted out. To revisit the prior statement you made >but I don't think these shelters should be pushing these dogs onto families. Especially ones that have killed family pets before and are being advertised as "good with children" If the article is intended to support that never defended position it does not do so. In order to evaluate that a journalist or interested party would need to investigate the adoption procedure and figure out if adopting families were properly informed. Furthermore to be clear 3.2 million dogs are adopted from shelters. I was unable to ascertain how many dogs are rescued from dog fighting rings annually but surmise it is probably measured at most in the hundreds. This is to say that something on the over of 1 dog in 10,000 is a refugee from dog fighting. The fate of a tiny number of ex fighting dogs is of almost no relevance to the overall pitbull question.