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At least government is somewhat, if minimally, accountable to people living in a democracy. Corporations are tyrannies, wholly unresponsive to the will of the p

At least government is somewhat, if minimally, accountable to people living in a democracy. Corporations are tyrannies, wholly unresponsive to the will of the people.

Mirioron 6y ago
Corporations act under governments. It's been this way for a while now. Corporations can't do business without the government as the government can always pass a law to stop the corporation's business. It doesn't work the other way around. A corporation can't stop the government.
- kelnos 6y ago
  And that's the entire point of this subthread: people need to get their government to rein in the big corps. Yes, they still need to be wary of their governments and vote responsibly, but they need to be doubly wary of these corporations, and not be afraid to use government to control them. I see a lot of rhetoric around "free markets" and "not interfering with enterprise" -- usually pushed by corporations themselves. People need to reject that thinking and understand that the corporations don't have their best interests at heart when they say these things.
  - Mirioron 6y ago
    You still have to be more wary of the government. The government has almost all of the power. Corporations only have power if people choose to engage with them or if the government forces you to engage with them (lets them engage with you - eg pollution). The reason enterprises don't want the government to interfere is that often the government is used maliciously to deal with competing enterprises. It's still the government doing it though, whether a corporation influences the politicians or not. And if this is on the table then corporations will fight over getting politicians on their side rather than improving their product. After all, if you can outlaw your competition then that's a better investment than marginally outperforming your competitors with a slightly better product.

At least government is somewhat, if minimally, accountable to people living in a democracy. Corporations are tyrannies, wholly unresponsive to the will of the people.

Mirioron 6y ago

Corporations act under governments. It's been this way for a while now. Corporations can't do business without the government as the government can always pass a law to stop the corporation's business. It doesn't work the other way around. A corporation can't stop the government.

kelnos 6y ago
And that's the entire point of this subthread: people need to get their government to rein in the big corps. Yes, they still need to be wary of their governments and vote responsibly, but they need to be doubly wary of these corporations, and not be afraid to use government to control them. I see a lot of rhetoric around "free markets" and "not interfering with enterprise" -- usually pushed by corporations themselves. People need to reject that thinking and understand that the corporations don't have their best interests at heart when they say these things.
- Mirioron 6y ago
  You still have to be more wary of the government. The government has almost all of the power. Corporations only have power if people choose to engage with them or if the government forces you to engage with them (lets them engage with you - eg pollution). The reason enterprises don't want the government to interfere is that often the government is used maliciously to deal with competing enterprises. It's still the government doing it though, whether a corporation influences the politicians or not. And if this is on the table then corporations will fight over getting politicians on their side rather than improving their product. After all, if you can outlaw your competition then that's a better investment than marginally outperforming your competitors with a slightly better product.