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Kind of tangential, but > If you're working in Seattle for Amazon and you're good at your job and you want to leave your job tomorrow, you have far fewer oppor
by iameli 6y ago
Kind of tangential, but
> If you're working in Seattle for Amazon and you're good at your job and you want to leave your job tomorrow, you have far fewer opportunities. Where are you going to go, Microsoft? There's not nearly as much mobility. So I think a big part of the reason we have less organizing [than Google] is that people are more afraid to jeopardize their jobs. If you want to stay in the Northwest, you keep your head down.
Is that... really how people view Seattle? Feels like there's always a zillion companies hiring here.
- AnHonestComment 6y agoIt’s a very strange take. There’s the obvious big ones — Amazon and Microsoft. Then second tier places — Boeing, Starbucks, Nintendo, etc. Then there’s the tech satellites — Google and FB both have large offices. IBM and Oracle both have cloud teams. Then there’s traditional companies opening satellites for tech talent — eg Blackrock, Goldman Sachs, and WarnerMedia. And then everyone at the bar does a startup.
- mtnGoat 6y agoThere a lot of tech companies in Seattle, many of which are growing their head count. I'd say it's just as good a job market as SF or NY, albeit slightly smaller. I don't buy the BS from the interview/blog article. No Amazon engineer I know was worried about leaving/loosing their job. All but one said their engineering culture wasn't fun to work in, and they all left before fully vesting... so i wouldn't say they were held hostage in any way.
- kablow 6y agoTo be fair, with the way Amazon's TC/RSUs work you always have some left unvested - I don't know if it is possible to quit "fully" vested (unless you're referring only to the initial grant.)
- antonvs 6y agoPeople with the FAANG mindset have only five preferred employers, and only one of them is in Seattle.
- zaltekk 6y agoFacebook and Google both have multiple offices around Seattle. I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple or Netflix were interested in hiring in Seattle either.
- jsolson 6y agoI'd add Microsoft and drop Facebook, personally, but... yeah, the first part is kinda fair. That said, the second part is wrong. It was no trouble at all to jump from Amazon to Google Seattle when I felt the time was right. My desk at the office (if you remember offices from the pre-pandemic days) is less than two blocks from my original desk at Amazon.
- dtrailin 6y agoIt's also not that uncommon to see people go from Amazon go to Microsoft especially in teams like Azure. There's more difference between teams within the two of them than there is between the two as a whole. Although, people generally go to Microsoft for better work life balance and benefits. Going from Microsoft to Amazon to boomerang back to Microsoft is also quite common. source: work at MS