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>65+ above white wise men snobbery Nice! Casual ageism and racism mixed into one post.

preordained 6y ago
Seriously. That's a WTF from me, dawg...
WhitneyLand 6y ago
Conventional wisdom is discrimination against privileged groups such as white men is less offensive because they’ve endured so much less of it. On one hand, it’s true. It’s part of white privilege which is tangible. On the other hand, however less often people in a privileged class are realistically impacted by discrimination, it’s still > 0.0%. Since it usually costs nothing more to include everyone it seems useful. But I think the biggest reason it’s important to care about discrimination wherever it shows up and not let people off the hook is that it’s unifying. There’s a story out of Buddhism that suggests it’s important to think equally kindly about rich people, kind of similar in that they’re a privileged class. I know it’s a hard sell. I don’t do it justice here. However a powerful argument can be made that not disparaging privileged classes, actually helps us all in the long run/big picture. If I get down voted I understand, that’s ok. If it makes a difference I don’t mean to minimize the 10,000 year history of pain suffered by any humans due to discrimination.
- rs23296008n1 6y ago
  Racist people like you make peaceful protests and working for change against racism so much harder. You're just out for revenge and your rhetoric shows it. Edit: I've had just about enough of people using "white privilege" to justify violence and blatant discrimination because "they haven't been exposed to enough". Its just another way to justify racism. Plenty of white people live in poverty. Its not ok in either direction.
  - callamdelaney 6y ago
    Racism is singling out white people as the source of all evil, and then backing it up with statistics which don’t tell the whole story.
  - anchpop 6y ago
    Did you read their entire comment? It sounds like you agree with them
    - callamdelaney 6y ago
      The pre and post edit makes it seem like they could be on either side of the argument.
- karaterobot 6y ago
  > However a powerful argument can be made that not disparaging privileged classes, actually helps us all in the long run/big picture. The powerful argument is that you should treat everyone well, period, and not do some kind of calculation to decide how cruel you're allowed to be to them.
- golemiprague 6y ago
  White privilege doesn't exist and is not "tangible". It is just some academic theory which was accepted with no evidence and with no common sense. "Privilege" is a combination of many factors so even isolating it to skin colour as if it sums up everything about a person is just plain stupid. Not to mention that it all comes out of some American internal issue which doesn't apply to many other "whites" around the world. Even the concept of white is different in different parts of the world. Can American leaves us alone with this idiocy and keep it to themselves?
- Dave9k 6y ago
  So at first you're sympathising with discriminating against those that you see as suffering less and then your big idea is treating people equally and that's a 'hard sell'. That is like being a basic good fucking human, it's not a novel idea.
  - WhitneyLand 6y ago
    Sorry if it was unclear that’s not what I meant to imply. First, acknowledging the thinking behind a common opinion is not the same as sympathizing with it. It’s only stating a concept I disagree with. Secondly, it’d be nice to take credit for this, big fucking idea, but unfortunately it’d be thousands of years too late. I explicitly mentioned the source. Finally, I don’t see how it’s not a novel idea. If you started asking people to think kindly about rich Wall Street bankers or cable company executives would everyone he instantly on board? I know those are extreme examples but that was the point of the story. What’s indeed not novel is to say, think well of all people. The hard part is when you try to actually apply it equally, including to less popular but highly privileged classes of people. I don’t claim that I can do it all the time, I’m sure I don’t in fact. However for any ideal shouldn't it be ok to try and work towards it over time?
tclancy 6y ago
Rough guess OP is making fun of himself with this now.
- sourc3 6y ago
  Yep.

Seriously. That's a WTF from me, dawg...

Conventional wisdom is discrimination against privileged groups such as white men is less offensive because they’ve endured so much less of it. On one hand, it’s true. It’s part of white privilege which is tangible. On the other hand, however less often people in a privileged class are realistically impacted by discrimination, it’s still > 0.0%. Since it usually costs nothing more to include everyone it seems useful. But I think the biggest reason it’s important to care about discrimination wherever it shows up and not let people off the hook is that it’s unifying. There’s a story out of Buddhism that suggests it’s important to think equally kindly about rich people, kind of similar in that they’re a privileged class. I know it’s a hard sell. I don’t do it justice here. However a powerful argument can be made that not disparaging privileged classes, actually helps us all in the long run/big picture. If I get down voted I understand, that’s ok. If it makes a difference I don’t mean to minimize the 10,000 year history of pain suffered by any humans due to discrimination.

rs23296008n1 6y ago
Racist people like you make peaceful protests and working for change against racism so much harder. You're just out for revenge and your rhetoric shows it. Edit: I've had just about enough of people using "white privilege" to justify violence and blatant discrimination because "they haven't been exposed to enough". Its just another way to justify racism. Plenty of white people live in poverty. Its not ok in either direction.
- callamdelaney 6y ago
  Racism is singling out white people as the source of all evil, and then backing it up with statistics which don’t tell the whole story.
- anchpop 6y ago
  Did you read their entire comment? It sounds like you agree with them
  - callamdelaney 6y ago
    The pre and post edit makes it seem like they could be on either side of the argument.
karaterobot 6y ago
> However a powerful argument can be made that not disparaging privileged classes, actually helps us all in the long run/big picture. The powerful argument is that you should treat everyone well, period, and not do some kind of calculation to decide how cruel you're allowed to be to them.
golemiprague 6y ago
White privilege doesn't exist and is not "tangible". It is just some academic theory which was accepted with no evidence and with no common sense. "Privilege" is a combination of many factors so even isolating it to skin colour as if it sums up everything about a person is just plain stupid. Not to mention that it all comes out of some American internal issue which doesn't apply to many other "whites" around the world. Even the concept of white is different in different parts of the world. Can American leaves us alone with this idiocy and keep it to themselves?
Dave9k 6y ago
So at first you're sympathising with discriminating against those that you see as suffering less and then your big idea is treating people equally and that's a 'hard sell'. That is like being a basic good fucking human, it's not a novel idea.
- WhitneyLand 6y ago
  Sorry if it was unclear that’s not what I meant to imply. First, acknowledging the thinking behind a common opinion is not the same as sympathizing with it. It’s only stating a concept I disagree with. Secondly, it’d be nice to take credit for this, big fucking idea, but unfortunately it’d be thousands of years too late. I explicitly mentioned the source. Finally, I don’t see how it’s not a novel idea. If you started asking people to think kindly about rich Wall Street bankers or cable company executives would everyone he instantly on board? I know those are extreme examples but that was the point of the story. What’s indeed not novel is to say, think well of all people. The hard part is when you try to actually apply it equally, including to less popular but highly privileged classes of people. I don’t claim that I can do it all the time, I’m sure I don’t in fact. However for any ideal shouldn't it be ok to try and work towards it over time?

tclancy 6y ago

Rough guess OP is making fun of himself with this now.

sourc3 6y ago
Yep.