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> filled with praise for a company that just released a turd of a game Hey now, that's harsh. If you have a decent-spec gaming PC you have the "blessed combina

by tomc1985 6y ago

> filled with praise for a company that just released a turd of a game Hey now, that's harsh. If you have a decent-spec gaming PC you have the "blessed combination". The console releases were a trainwreck but unless you're calling Skyrim and Fallout 4 turds as well I wouldn't put CP2077 in that category.

walrus01 6y ago
Fallout 4 on xbox one actually is a turd, it crashes every hour. It's buggy as hell and will never be patched. Bethesda doesn't care.
EpicEng 6y ago
Even if you don't experience performance problems, the game is buggy as all hell, and some of those bugs are game breaking. Besides, the issue at hand here is company reputation. CDPR knowingly released a game to consoles that is damn near unplayable. It was a blatant cash grab at the expense of their customers, and if you honestly believe they didn't know what the state of the game was prior to release then I have a bridge to sell you. Sony actually has pretty strict certification criteria from what Ive read, so the assumption is that CDPR promised a day 1 fix for all of this stuff and they failed. Miserably.
- Grimm1 6y ago
  I have 72+ hours in the game now, I've experienced one or two tposes and a single crash. I know many people who have had a similar experience to me.
  - EpicEng 6y ago
    Cool for you, I'm glad. We have thousands of streams showing people with high end rigs running into ridiculous bugs, and it's completely irrelevant in regards to the console versions.
    - Grimm1 6y ago
      There has not been thousands of stream that is complete hyperbole at least for PC, but yes granted console has been a complete shitshow and is inexcusable.
      - EpicEng 6y ago
        Yes there have been, and your point is still irrelevant.
        Grimm1 6y ago
        Chill there bud. No need to be an asshole. It's just a video game.
        EpicEng 6y ago
        You call me an asshole and somehow I'm the jerk? I'm saying your point is both wrong and irrelevant, which it is. Maybe you're the one with the problem.
        dragonwriter 6y ago
        > You call me an asshole and somehow I'm the jerk? People who call you an “asshole” tend to think you’re being an asshole. How is this surprising?
        EpicEng 6y ago
        Because I wasn't name calling, only responding to what he said. I thought that much was obvious.
        EpicEng 6y ago
        Haha, well here's a new one https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/20/22192375/cyberpunk-2077-save-file-corrupted-8-mb https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/20/22192375/cyberpunk-2077-... Try not to... uhhh... collect too many items... while playing your RPG... I guess. Top notch QA, really (though I think we both know deep down it's not really a QA problem.)
falcolas 6y ago
In one sentence, I will give my justification for calling it a turd: 8MB save file size limitation. Every other bug aside, that you can crash your game by collecting too many items in the game, and your recourse is to “collect less items” is utterly inexcusable. That doesn’t even mention getting kicked off an entire platform after being launched. A feat only achieved by one other game in history.
- brobinson 6y ago
  What was the other game?
  - falcolas 6y ago
    Batman: Arkham Knight It was withdrawn from the PC platform. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Arkham_Knight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Arkham_Knight
- tomc1985 6y ago
  I agree, that bug is probably the most ridiculous. To be honest I'm trying to fathom how it even exists, it seems so easy to just up whatever limit is imposing that size.
  - kmeisthax 6y ago
    I wouldn't be surprised if there's literally a variable called SAVEGAME that's a char[8192] array somewhere in the serialization path and that's what's causing the corruption.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      You're off by ten orders of magnitude ;) char SAVEGAME[8388608];
- tick_tock_tick 6y ago
  Ehh collecting items will never do it craft is what does it every item crafted will add a section to the save file detailing the items stats that doesn't go away when you sell or get rid of the item.

walrus01 6y ago

Fallout 4 on xbox one actually is a turd, it crashes every hour. It's buggy as hell and will never be patched. Bethesda doesn't care.

EpicEng 6y ago

Even if you don't experience performance problems, the game is buggy as all hell, and some of those bugs are game breaking. Besides, the issue at hand here is company reputation. CDPR knowingly released a game to consoles that is damn near unplayable. It was a blatant cash grab at the expense of their customers, and if you honestly believe they didn't know what the state of the game was prior to release then I have a bridge to sell you. Sony actually has pretty strict certification criteria from what Ive read, so the assumption is that CDPR promised a day 1 fix for all of this stuff and they failed. Miserably.

Grimm1 6y ago
I have 72+ hours in the game now, I've experienced one or two tposes and a single crash. I know many people who have had a similar experience to me.
- EpicEng 6y ago
  Cool for you, I'm glad. We have thousands of streams showing people with high end rigs running into ridiculous bugs, and it's completely irrelevant in regards to the console versions.
  - Grimm1 6y ago
    There has not been thousands of stream that is complete hyperbole at least for PC, but yes granted console has been a complete shitshow and is inexcusable.
    - EpicEng 6y ago
      Yes there have been, and your point is still irrelevant.
      - Grimm1 6y ago
        Chill there bud. No need to be an asshole. It's just a video game.
        EpicEng 6y ago
        You call me an asshole and somehow I'm the jerk? I'm saying your point is both wrong and irrelevant, which it is. Maybe you're the one with the problem.
        dragonwriter 6y ago
        > You call me an asshole and somehow I'm the jerk? People who call you an “asshole” tend to think you’re being an asshole. How is this surprising?
        EpicEng 6y ago
        Because I wasn't name calling, only responding to what he said. I thought that much was obvious.
        EpicEng 6y ago
        Haha, well here's a new one https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/20/22192375/cyberpunk-2077-save-file-corrupted-8-mb https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/20/22192375/cyberpunk-2077-... Try not to... uhhh... collect too many items... while playing your RPG... I guess. Top notch QA, really (though I think we both know deep down it's not really a QA problem.)

falcolas 6y ago

In one sentence, I will give my justification for calling it a turd: 8MB save file size limitation. Every other bug aside, that you can crash your game by collecting too many items in the game, and your recourse is to “collect less items” is utterly inexcusable. That doesn’t even mention getting kicked off an entire platform after being launched. A feat only achieved by one other game in history.

brobinson 6y ago
What was the other game?
- falcolas 6y ago
  Batman: Arkham Knight It was withdrawn from the PC platform. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Arkham_Knight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Arkham_Knight
tomc1985 6y ago
I agree, that bug is probably the most ridiculous. To be honest I'm trying to fathom how it even exists, it seems so easy to just up whatever limit is imposing that size.
- kmeisthax 6y ago
  I wouldn't be surprised if there's literally a variable called SAVEGAME that's a char[8192] array somewhere in the serialization path and that's what's causing the corruption.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    You're off by ten orders of magnitude ;) char SAVEGAME[8388608];
tick_tock_tick 6y ago
Ehh collecting items will never do it craft is what does it every item crafted will add a section to the save file detailing the items stats that doesn't go away when you sell or get rid of the item.