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Hi, you can apply current corporate surveillance issues under any type of economic or government system and still have the exact same discussion of, "oh woe is
by NoOneNew 6y ago
Hi, you can apply current corporate surveillance issues under any type of economic or government system and still have the exact same discussion of, "oh woe is us, how terrible the people are up there". Or you can utilize the tools that capitalism offers everyone, even the poor.
We set as either public practice or into law that people own their personal data, which is not a hard stretch. Think about that for a moment. What does it mean to own something in a capitalist system... think... think hard... YOU CAN SELL IT! Actually license in this case, but you get the point. If you're in the back of the class or still on the short bus, what I'm saying is this: a company can collect and sell YOUR data... for a fee. You get a percentage (or flat rate if that's your jam) of whatever they make, in perpetuity. Let's even classify your data as copyrighted content, just like books and other media. You do "create" your own data. After your death, your estate (children, etc.) get that fee as well for... I think it's 75 years after death, or is it 50... I don't remember how long book copyrights are. Exact number doesn't matter, but you get the point of where I'm going.
But nay you say! Nay I say in return. Companies do this already. As a fond and active capitalist, I've made it a habit to get paid to learn new skills to great success. I've even held in shits so I can make sure I get paid to shit (only a few times and strictly so I can truthfully make this comment, again, you get the point). Anyways, companies do this by licensing their own data out to other companies. Now, since companies get taxed/treated as "people" (USA), there is ZERO reason actual people can't do this. Oh wait, I know why. "People" are better educated in the sex lives of celebrities, memes and what's the latest pop culture, superhero show/movie.
The tools to solve this issue are built into capitalism and basic western governance in the last 100 years. Hell, it's also a decent way to redistribute wealth in a very fair method that's hard to argue in a capitalist society. No one is "overburdened" by letting someone else coast on someone else's work. Everyone thus has a "product" to sell in a mass format just like book publishers or movie streaming services.
But hey, I'm the asshole that likes real world solutions that are based on centuries old established working principles instead of unicorn fantasies that have never worked, like communism.
- postingpals 6y agoThis too is a unicorn fantasy. You claim the reason people are not selling their data is because they are too obsessed with culture or something. In reality there is an imbalance of negotiation power. A company can sell their data because they understand the game and have leverage over other companies. They can say "buy our data, it's valuable and there's only one of us". A citizen cannot do that. Besides your data is already in circulation and they don't necessarily need it to be tied to you in order for it to be a generally useful human data point. How do you 'tax' that which has been stripped of your ownership and distributed far and wide? Nevertheless I don't think you're going to get this put into law. Legislation is an unstable and unfair method of change that is biased towards people who can afford to partake in it.
- andrekandre 6y ago> Legislation is an unstable and unfair method of change that is biased towards people who can afford to partake in it. whats the solution then?
- sudosysgen 6y agoYes. At this point we have absolutely no choice but to review our economic system from the root up. There are too many disastrous problems that can't be fixed with our current incentive structures and modes of social organization. What exactly it should look like, I don't know. We have a great many ideas on how to do, informed with historical experience though, and it's very high time for some radical social experimentation, from market socialism to decentralized planning and much more, and many have promising preliminary results. We have to set up experiments of these ideas of increasing scales and eventually completely change how we organize our society.