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I wonder how long it will take before we reinvent SPAs? I like Hacker News in part because the tech is so boring. Server-side rendered, static HTML with a mini
by 1f60c 6y ago
I wonder how long it will take before we reinvent SPAs?
I like Hacker News in part because the tech is so boring. Server-side rendered, static HTML with a minimal amount of JS[0].
[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/hn.js https://news.ycombinator.com/hn.js
- freedomben 6y agoI also prefer boring and love how HN works. That said though, modern consumers expect much more. We tech people like command lines, the ultimate in simple and boring. Modern consumers often want animation and things[1]. Source: UI/UX researchers tell me this when I push back and say "let's keep the tech simple and forgo some of the animations, etc in the name of using simple OOTB stuff without hacking thousands of lines of JS together." Also family members will tell me the same things.
- matthoiland 6y agoConsumers want electronic starters on their chainsaws – but they're less reliable, prone to error, more expensive, etc... in the end, us engineers gotta make products that people will buy.
- rorykoehler 6y agoDo people really want that stuff out do they just think they want it?
- scythmic_waves 6y agoIf you have trouble selling a product without that stuff, does it make a difference?
- trog 6y agoDo people think they want it, or do developers and designers think the people want it?!
- jolux 6y agoI'm a developer and I definitely want that stuff some of the time. On platforms that can handle it, absolutely. I love all the animations in macOS and I always have. GNOME and Windows are nice but they don't feel like home in the same way, they don't have sophisticated and fluid animations. They need to be performant and they need to improve the usability of the system, not reduce it. That's the criteria. It's often not achievable with the web, though people try.
- IggleSniggle 6y agoI also love the animations in macOS, but fwiw each version of iOS feels like a step backwards for usability to me.
- ksec 6y ago>UI/UX researchers Is that with respect to Web Page / Tech? Because people expect different things for Apps and WebPages.
- freedomben 6y agoGreat question, largely yes web page / tech but I used to work on a Qt desktop app and it was the same story there. Luckily Qt made animations fairly easy and performant.
- ymolodtsov 6y agoNot sure since when undiscoverable command line interfaces are simple. Simple to make, yes, but not easy to use compared to the most basic visual solution where its creator put a lot of thought.
- stopChanging 6y agoThanks for the link. I'm new to JS, but it seems funny to me how the first block of one-liner functions reads like it's just making up for how awful the JS standard library is.
- arvindamirtaa 6y agoHackernews, Crigslist, the old redddit (which is still VERY actively used). The list goes on.
- ric2b 6y agoAlthough it would be great if HN notified you of replies and had a dedicated place to see them besides "threads", which also show comments no one replied to.