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Being neighbors with Russia, this is long overdue.
by kofejnik 6y ago
Being neighbors with Russia, this is long overdue.
- kyberias 6y agoSweden has no land border with Russia, though.
- andylynch 6y agoDon't forget the Baltic Sea. Sweden and Russian have been rival powers for centuries, nearly as long as the two counrties have existed.
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- supergirl 6y agoputting american bases in your country is already capitulation. you can never kick them out. they will be there 50 years from now when who knows how US will act towards Sweden. see Turkey's case. not to mention that Sweden's defense industry will likely collapse since they will be forced to buy NATO equipment; goodbye Gripen. high price to pay for preempting a hypothetical attack from Russia.
- alkonaut 6y agoThe collaboration is much deeper than that already. The Gripen is built using a NATO engine (modified F404/414). The T-7 Red Hawk trainer will be the trainer in many NATO countries and one of the most numerous aircraft in NATO for years to come, and it’ll be built partially by Saab too. The successor to Gripen won’t be a solo project, it’ll be built in collaborations like with BAE in the Tempest program. NATO is more than the US, so buying Dassault/EADS/Airbus is “Just as NATO” as buying Lockheed and Boeing. I doubt there would be many permanent US forces in Sweden considering the Norwegian forces are now being cut.
- kofejnik 6y ago> putting american bases in your country is already capitulation. NOT putting American bases in your country is capitulation as history shows that Russia is bound to attack sooner or later. Ukraine is currently partly occupied, after many years of 'friendship'
- Giorgi 6y agoThere are dozens of countries who's people would be happy to see US bases to somehow stand a chance against shitty neighbor that are Russians. Sweden is already NATO compliant and does not buy junk from Russia Not so hypothetical when we remember what Russia did in Georgia, then Ukraine, then Syria etc, etc...
- ed25519FUUU 6y agoYou realize that this means the US responds via war if Sweden is attacked, right?
- alkonaut 6y agoJoining would make it formally have to respond. You can still decide whether to send troops under Article 5. Of course, it’s more or less a given that NATO countries including the US would respond if Sweden was attacked. Membership would only be a marginal change.
- kofejnik 6y agoThat's what defensive pacts are for, yes
- Giorgi 6y agoSo? That's the point.
- ed25519FUUU 6y agoMore chances of foreign conflict? Exactly what’s been missing in US foreign policy over the last 100 years!
- kofejnik 6y agoyeah, they should capitulate preemptively, to avoid conflict, you know. Way to deal with bullies.