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You generally don't want people that cheat, lie and can't pass calculus in charge of the largest military in the world
by resist_futility 6y ago
You generally don't want people that cheat, lie and can't pass calculus in charge of the largest military in the world
- adamnemecek 6y agoIdk, between this and bombing children in the Middle East, I feel like there are larger problems to address. Also US military is not the largest military in the world.
- derwiki 6y agoStraw man? And yes not the largest by headcount but widely considered the most powerful military in the world.
- adamnemecek 6y agoLol, do you legitimately think that people in say China or Russia believe that?
- confidantlake 6y agoWhy is that relevant?
- astura 6y agoBelieving something doesn't make it true.
- adamnemecek 6y agoRight, but that also applies to the original claim I was refuting right?
- buzzerbetrayed 6y agoWhy do you keep bringing up people's beliefs if you admit they are irrelevant? Debate GP with facts about the military if opinions are so untrustworthy.
- dragonwriter 6y ago> Idk, between this and bombing children in the Middle East, I feel like there are larger problems to address. Do you think allowing more people who break clear explicit rules of conduct for immediate personal advantage into the military (and visibly doing so, so that you send the message that it is acceptable) will make those bigger problems better or worse? > Also US military is not the largest military in the world. By manpower? No. By virtually any capacity measure? Yes. Maybe by manpower to, once you account for the large degree to which military functions are contracted out (including armed combat roles in war zones) and add in all the contractors performing those functions.
- adamnemecek 6y agoI think that the military has larger things to worry about as far as integrity. I think that cheating on exams won’t change anything as far as military goes. People in Russia and China really don’t think the US military is the most powerful military.
- dragonwriter 6y ago> People in Russia and China really don’t think the US military is the most powerful military. I'm not sure what bearing this has on anything even if it is true, besides being a weirdly selective argumentum ad populum fallacy.
- adamnemecek 6y agoWhat I’m trying to say is that your opinion is not a universal truth.
- dragonwriter 6y agoThe existence of flat-earthers has no effect on the degree to which it is true that the Earth is, approximately, an oblate spheroid.
- gabagool 6y agoTrue, there is no objective manner to determine the "largest" or "most powerful" military. However, via this listing of militaries by different types of equipment[1], the US leads in 8 of 14 categories. I'll admit I thought the US would lead in more categories, but this is the majority of listed criteria. If one adds in military size, it would become 8/15 (still over half). The US also leads in various military strength indices. For better or worse, the US is assumed to have the most powerful military in present day. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_level_of_military_equipment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_level_of_...
- derwiki 6y agoTbh I’m not sure I care they “can’t” pass calculus (maybe they could with in person instruction?). But cheat and lie, yea that’s non-negotiable.