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That doesn’t seem that extreme or strange to me. If you fly with a bike then you’ll want a hard, padded case for it, like one of these[1]. I also keep my best

by Lio 6y ago

That doesn’t seem that extreme or strange to me. If you fly with a bike then you’ll want a hard, padded case for it, like one of these[1]. I also keep my best bike (I, er, have several) in the house. i.e. a temperature controlled room. 1. https://www.bikeboxalan.com https://www.bikeboxalan.com

lmm 6y ago
> If you fly with a bike then you’ll want a hard, padded case for it, like one of these[1]. Sure, but flying is very much an occasional thing; you have to semi-disassemble a bike to put it in a case like that, and generally reckon on having to do a shakedown ride after you've unpacked it (at least I do). Putting it in a box every time would not be practical. > I also keep my best bike (I, er, have several) in the house. i.e. a temperature controlled room. That's not unknown but not exactly normal; you must admit having several bikes is pretty extreme in itself. If you're not on the ground floor then knocking the bike against a wall or doorframe on the way in or out is almost inevitable, whereas I certainly wouldn't want to do the same to a musical instrument. I suspect the majority of people who are using a bike as day-to-day transport would keep that bike in, at best, an unheated garage.
- Lio 6y ago
  The bike I use for commuting is a Brompton. Folding it up to put in its padded bag takes less than 30 seconds and I do that every time I put it away in my hall. I don't own a flight case for it but they exist and don't require disassembly to use. I'm not saying that everyone does this, just that treating a bike like a musical instrument isn't that far fetched an idea. > you must admit having several bikes is pretty extreme in itself. I'm in a bike club. I know so many people with more than one bike it's not even a joke any more. N+1 and all that.
  - lmm 6y ago
    > Folding it up to put in its padded bag takes less than 30 seconds and I do that every time I put it away in my hall. But you leave it unboxed for 8 hours at the other end, right? I don't think any musician would do that with their instrument. > I don't own a flight case for it but they exist and don't require disassembly to use. Sure, because it's a dedicated folding bike. Will this bamboo bike go in a flight case without any disassembly?
    - Lio 6y ago
      > Will this bamboo bike go in a flight case without any disassembly? Yeah if you want that. BikeBoxAlan have a case you put a bike into and only need to remove the wheels[1]. If you'd discount that because of such minor disassembly you'd have to discount the minor disassembly of putting a flute or Sax in it's box too. As I said though, you don't have to treat the bike like that but you could easily if you wanted to. 1. https://www.bikeboxalan.com/product/triathlon-easyfit/?v=79cba1185463 https://www.bikeboxalan.com/product/triathlon-easyfit/?v=79c...
      - lmm 6y ago
        And you'd what, stash a second box at the office? Always have a support car? Only do circular rides from home? I'm sure there are some people whose lifestyle lets them treat a bicycle like a musical instrument. I really don't think most people could do it, not while riding with any real frequency. I count myself lucky that my office has underground bicycle parking (and we're still talking wheel-bender racks next to the A/C exhaust vents). I stand by the statement that a bicycle that needs to be looked after that carefully isn't, by the usual standards of such things, a practical bicycle.
        Lio 6y ago
        Of course I don't keep a second box at the office. Likewise I know very few people that keep a piano in a flight case when they're not transporting it. I actually do have bikes that I only take on circular rides because of their value and I baby the hell out of them but that's a false dichotomy. They are not saying you have to treat these bikes as fragile musical instruments. They're just saying that if you do it will incur less wear and tear. A carbon fibre bike frame is probably more fragile than a steel one. That limits the number of use cases for carbon but doesn't mean it's not a practical material for different usecases. As a further example, I have a TT race bike. I keep mine hanging up in the garage an only take it out to races or for circular training rides. I have a friend that commutes on his TT bike as a form of training. Mine will last longer than his.

by Lio 6y ago

lmm 6y ago

> If you fly with a bike then you’ll want a hard, padded case for it, like one of these[1]. Sure, but flying is very much an occasional thing; you have to semi-disassemble a bike to put it in a case like that, and generally reckon on having to do a shakedown ride after you've unpacked it (at least I do). Putting it in a box every time would not be practical. > I also keep my best bike (I, er, have several) in the house. i.e. a temperature controlled room. That's not unknown but not exactly normal; you must admit having several bikes is pretty extreme in itself. If you're not on the ground floor then knocking the bike against a wall or doorframe on the way in or out is almost inevitable, whereas I certainly wouldn't want to do the same to a musical instrument. I suspect the majority of people who are using a bike as day-to-day transport would keep that bike in, at best, an unheated garage.

Lio 6y ago
The bike I use for commuting is a Brompton. Folding it up to put in its padded bag takes less than 30 seconds and I do that every time I put it away in my hall. I don't own a flight case for it but they exist and don't require disassembly to use. I'm not saying that everyone does this, just that treating a bike like a musical instrument isn't that far fetched an idea. > you must admit having several bikes is pretty extreme in itself. I'm in a bike club. I know so many people with more than one bike it's not even a joke any more. N+1 and all that.
- lmm 6y ago
  > Folding it up to put in its padded bag takes less than 30 seconds and I do that every time I put it away in my hall. But you leave it unboxed for 8 hours at the other end, right? I don't think any musician would do that with their instrument. > I don't own a flight case for it but they exist and don't require disassembly to use. Sure, because it's a dedicated folding bike. Will this bamboo bike go in a flight case without any disassembly?
  - Lio 6y ago
    > Will this bamboo bike go in a flight case without any disassembly? Yeah if you want that. BikeBoxAlan have a case you put a bike into and only need to remove the wheels[1]. If you'd discount that because of such minor disassembly you'd have to discount the minor disassembly of putting a flute or Sax in it's box too. As I said though, you don't have to treat the bike like that but you could easily if you wanted to. 1. https://www.bikeboxalan.com/product/triathlon-easyfit/?v=79cba1185463 https://www.bikeboxalan.com/product/triathlon-easyfit/?v=79c...
    - lmm 6y ago
      And you'd what, stash a second box at the office? Always have a support car? Only do circular rides from home? I'm sure there are some people whose lifestyle lets them treat a bicycle like a musical instrument. I really don't think most people could do it, not while riding with any real frequency. I count myself lucky that my office has underground bicycle parking (and we're still talking wheel-bender racks next to the A/C exhaust vents). I stand by the statement that a bicycle that needs to be looked after that carefully isn't, by the usual standards of such things, a practical bicycle.
      - Lio 6y ago
        Of course I don't keep a second box at the office. Likewise I know very few people that keep a piano in a flight case when they're not transporting it. I actually do have bikes that I only take on circular rides because of their value and I baby the hell out of them but that's a false dichotomy. They are not saying you have to treat these bikes as fragile musical instruments. They're just saying that if you do it will incur less wear and tear. A carbon fibre bike frame is probably more fragile than a steel one. That limits the number of use cases for carbon but doesn't mean it's not a practical material for different usecases. As a further example, I have a TT race bike. I keep mine hanging up in the garage an only take it out to races or for circular training rides. I have a friend that commutes on his TT bike as a form of training. Mine will last longer than his.