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Same. It was so on-the-nose I wasn't entirely convinced that everything I was reading was authentic. Obviously that type of person exists but some of the conv

• duskwuff 6y ago
  A lot of it probably started out as performative, but later became sincere -- either as users on the site became further radicalized, or as the site became a magnet for users who actually believed the awful things they were saying.
  • jcims 6y ago
    When I first moved to my current home I installed a big wood stove in the basement to help keep the home warm. Over the next few years I learned a lot empirically about how fire works. One of the more interesting lessons was how important it is to use the radiant heat from a burning piece of wood to build and sustain heat in other pieces of wood. It works a bit like fuel rods in a fission reaction. When you keep the logs separate they will burn, but not vigorously. But if you bring two glowing logs close together, you can see them mutually heat each other and drive up the rate of combustion. I think something like that happens with these concentrated communities.
    • QuesnayJr 6y ago
      That's a really striking analogy.
• ashtonkem 6y ago
  It's hard to say, but it does seem like the pathway from edgelord to actual nazi is disturbingly short and straight. Even if a lot of that content wasn't authentic, there is a non-trivial chance that they'll come to believe it eventually.
  • concordDance 6y ago
    Edgelords get rejected by all the non-nazis.
  • sonotathrowaway 6y ago
    “Ironic nazis” aren’t a thing, they’re just nazis. The original nazis used “irony” and “edgelord” recruiting tactics in the same way that the modern neo-nazi does, with the same intents and purposes. There’s no difference in the tactics, just like there’s no difference in the contingent of concerned free-speech absolutists convinced that we need to listen to their “jokes” and take them in stride as they advance their radicalization campaigns. The “irony” is important, because it allows their recruits to performatively voice their hatred in a safe manner, much like a child riding a bike with training wheels. The goal of radicalization is to move them away from the irony, but keep the hatred. https://www.thewrap.com/daily-stormer-founder-ironic-nazis-andrew-anglin/ https://www.thewrap.com/daily-stormer-founder-ironic-nazis-a...
• sam_bristow 6y ago
  This is when i tend to apply Popehat's law of goats. The Rule of Goats: even if you say you're only fucking goats ironically, you're still a goatfucker
• user-the-name 6y ago
  It's only an act for so long. If it ever was an act.