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Classic Apple. They dabble in various things for years until the moment is right to strike with a version 2.0 of something that others already make. Apple rarel

by ttul 6y ago

Classic Apple. They dabble in various things for years until the moment is right to strike with a version 2.0 of something that others already make. Apple rarely enters the market with something that nobody has ever seen before. Apple Watch, iPad, iPhone, and iPod... These were not the first products in their category, but they were the first to get the category truly right. This being said, I have no idea what Apple will get right about cars that others have not. But that’s the point, isn’t it. We never know ahead of time. There will just be a launch and then everything will change.

bredren 6y ago
Apple would aim for “car” to describe the new product in the same way “phone” describes iPhone. As in, “yes it technically can place and receive calls but that is the most boring thing that it does.”
zionic 6y ago
> This being said, I have no idea what Apple will get right about cars that others have not. To the smug 2026 posters who link this thread to laugh at us: my prediction is Apple ships a clean, simplified no-frills electric car 2.0 _subscription_.
- Spivak 6y ago
  I realize that a car subscription is sorta-kinda leasing but I really wish that that there was a proper subscription car service. I’m in the hook for gas/charging, taking it to you for service or a swap at your request, and personal liability insurance. You’re on the hook for everything else. Standard month to month or yearly for a discount pricing. It’s one of those situations where someone other than the driver owning the car makes the incentives line up nicely. Renters have the incentive and capital to get maximum reliability from manufacturers and competition plus scale drives prices to somewhere near depreciation plus mean maintenance which is the best you can really hope to do as a consumer looking to buy.
nickik 6y ago
The problem there is nothing that is truly next generation. Better batteries are designed to cost more. How much more then 400-500 miles do you need on a car? How much faster then 2-4 seconds to 100km/h do you need. Better quality interiors? Better then Germans? Likely not. I guess better software is an option, but what exactly. Tesla is working on that for years. Self driving? Well, Apple has no solution and if anybody has one by 2024 is questionable. Apple is likely not gone compete on price. So not sure what the angle is here.
- ttul 6y ago
  Let me try this: The problem there is nothing that is truly next generation. Better UX navigation doesn't help you find good music. How much more than 400-500 songs do you need on an mp3 player? How much faster will a navigation wheel help you find the music you like? Better quality online music store? Better than Napster? Likely not. I guess better software is an option, but what exactly. Creative Labs is working on that for years. Internal 2GB flash drive? Well, Creative has no solution and if anybody has one by 2005 is questionable. Apple is likely not gone compete on price. So not sure what the angle is here.

by ttul 6y ago

bredren 6y ago

Apple would aim for “car” to describe the new product in the same way “phone” describes iPhone. As in, “yes it technically can place and receive calls but that is the most boring thing that it does.”

zionic 6y ago

> This being said, I have no idea what Apple will get right about cars that others have not. To the smug 2026 posters who link this thread to laugh at us: my prediction is Apple ships a clean, simplified no-frills electric car 2.0 _subscription_.

Spivak 6y ago
I realize that a car subscription is sorta-kinda leasing but I really wish that that there was a proper subscription car service. I’m in the hook for gas/charging, taking it to you for service or a swap at your request, and personal liability insurance. You’re on the hook for everything else. Standard month to month or yearly for a discount pricing. It’s one of those situations where someone other than the driver owning the car makes the incentives line up nicely. Renters have the incentive and capital to get maximum reliability from manufacturers and competition plus scale drives prices to somewhere near depreciation plus mean maintenance which is the best you can really hope to do as a consumer looking to buy.

nickik 6y ago

The problem there is nothing that is truly next generation. Better batteries are designed to cost more. How much more then 400-500 miles do you need on a car? How much faster then 2-4 seconds to 100km/h do you need. Better quality interiors? Better then Germans? Likely not. I guess better software is an option, but what exactly. Tesla is working on that for years. Self driving? Well, Apple has no solution and if anybody has one by 2024 is questionable. Apple is likely not gone compete on price. So not sure what the angle is here.

ttul 6y ago
Let me try this: The problem there is nothing that is truly next generation. Better UX navigation doesn't help you find good music. How much more than 400-500 songs do you need on an mp3 player? How much faster will a navigation wheel help you find the music you like? Better quality online music store? Better than Napster? Likely not. I guess better software is an option, but what exactly. Creative Labs is working on that for years. Internal 2GB flash drive? Well, Creative has no solution and if anybody has one by 2005 is questionable. Apple is likely not gone compete on price. So not sure what the angle is here.