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or maybe just we've misinterpreted reality more than we thought... Guess what, other models do not require expansion.

gtsop 6y ago
Thank you! It is mindblowing to see the scientific comunity fixating over theories that are more likely to be wrong than right.
desideratum 6y ago
Can you refer to any specific theories that don't require expansion? (for reading)
- mountainboy 6y ago
  sure! Electric Universe (Thornhill, Birkeland, Scott, et al) Plasma Cosmology (Alfven, Lerner, et al) Infinite Universe Theory (Borchardt) Recycling Universe Cosmology (Mitchell) Subquantum Kinetics (La Violette) Modern Mechanics (Bryant) Push Gravity: (various, book: Pushing Gravity) The Static Universe (Ratcliffe) Steady State Universe (Hoyle, older) That's a good start at least. ;-) All of the above have one or more books written about them.
  - Triv888 6y ago
    An infinite Universe makes the most sense, let's adopt that
    - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
      Reality does not care what makes sense to you. Let's find out what's true and adopt that.
    - mountainboy 6y ago
      yes, personally I believe that pure logic alone can bring one to believe in an infinite, fractal, eternal universe. In other words, there is no smallest or largest. There was never any beginning nor will there ever be an end. (If there was a beginning, what caused it?) There is no outer boundary, limit, or end to the universe. If there were, beyond it would have to be "nothing". How can "nothing" exist, and what would be the border between "something" and "nothing"? There is no "time", only matter in motion. Matter is always divisible into something smaller, and composeable into something larger. Matter in motion at scale n is perceived as a "force" at scales > n. anyway, fun to think about!
    - mountainboy 6y ago
      Anyway, Borchardt's book/theory is pretty good. A bit different than what I've always thought about as my personal infinite universe theory, but good food for thought and he makes the math work. Definitely worth the read!
    - whimsicalism 6y ago
      > An infinite Universe makes the most sense, let's adopt that Why would human intuition about what makes sense have any impact on physical reality?

Thank you! It is mindblowing to see the scientific comunity fixating over theories that are more likely to be wrong than right.

desideratum 6y ago

Can you refer to any specific theories that don't require expansion? (for reading)

mountainboy 6y ago
sure! Electric Universe (Thornhill, Birkeland, Scott, et al) Plasma Cosmology (Alfven, Lerner, et al) Infinite Universe Theory (Borchardt) Recycling Universe Cosmology (Mitchell) Subquantum Kinetics (La Violette) Modern Mechanics (Bryant) Push Gravity: (various, book: Pushing Gravity) The Static Universe (Ratcliffe) Steady State Universe (Hoyle, older) That's a good start at least. ;-) All of the above have one or more books written about them.
- Triv888 6y ago
  An infinite Universe makes the most sense, let's adopt that
  - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
    Reality does not care what makes sense to you. Let's find out what's true and adopt that.
  - mountainboy 6y ago
    yes, personally I believe that pure logic alone can bring one to believe in an infinite, fractal, eternal universe. In other words, there is no smallest or largest. There was never any beginning nor will there ever be an end. (If there was a beginning, what caused it?) There is no outer boundary, limit, or end to the universe. If there were, beyond it would have to be "nothing". How can "nothing" exist, and what would be the border between "something" and "nothing"? There is no "time", only matter in motion. Matter is always divisible into something smaller, and composeable into something larger. Matter in motion at scale n is perceived as a "force" at scales > n. anyway, fun to think about!
  - mountainboy 6y ago
    Anyway, Borchardt's book/theory is pretty good. A bit different than what I've always thought about as my personal infinite universe theory, but good food for thought and he makes the math work. Definitely worth the read!
  - whimsicalism 6y ago
    > An infinite Universe makes the most sense, let's adopt that Why would human intuition about what makes sense have any impact on physical reality?