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Another take - and why I like AMP. Web developers deliver crap, ad laden slow websites - with HORRIBLE users experiences. Content jumps around as the web page

Another take - and why I like AMP. Web developers deliver crap, ad laden slow websites - with HORRIBLE users experiences. Content jumps around as the web page loads, sometimes even 5 - 10 seconds later! Autoplaying content is hell - but they seem to love it. Popovers, unders and sliders gallore. And for some reasons the GIANT mess of analytics trackers and CSS and dynamic content means the thing is a) slow b) nightmare on a phone Google has basically FORCED a bunch of these idiots to actually make a page usable and pleasant. It loads fast. What I don't get - all these high and mighty web devs can't seem to deliver clean websites that work without Google beating them over the heads with AMP. Is it that they cower in front of management with demands for YET ANOTHER tracker (seriously, websites ship with like 10 trackers - why?) They feel the need to show off their lazy loading dynamic content skills that jank the page? So thank goodness for AMP, perhaps developers will actually try to compete with it a bit by building usable non-amp websites. And trust me, users are getting trained that the lighting bolt actually does mean FAST. Anyways - when I read another rant from a web developer about AMP - a small request. How about de-jankifying and de-scamifying the web first a bit more? Then we won't need to turn to google for all this stuff.

sintaxi 6y ago
Google favourably ranks "giant, ad laden slow websites with giant mess of analytics trackers" because they make money from the ads and they are the ones tracking you. They are giving you the disease and then trying to sell you "treatment" - which happens to be another disease.
pineconewarrior 6y ago
You're entirely blaming web developers for the decisions of marketing and management. Do you think we like including 1mb+ tracking scripts?
- Jyaif 6y ago
  Who do you think created the 1MB+ tracking scripts?
- random5634 6y ago
  Google has a big stick which they’ve used to whack marketing and management with. Listening to these developers rant about what is probably the fastest and most user friendly effort while they push out stuff that makes yours eyes bleed is ridiculous. All web developers should all be forced to browse with Adblock off and no auto play block. Mgmt if it shows a tiny bump in some ad click metric for a quarter will shove a popover out while they burn the long term value in the web and their sites. The fact that google has to push these types of things is embarrassing.
- grayhatter 6y ago
  I'm just following orders... Yeah, that doesn't exempt you from blame as much as you would like.
Griffinsauce 6y ago
Come on, don't call the rank and file web developers "idiots". They (we) carry some responsibility for this but it is most definitely shared with stakeholders (often higher ups that determine whether you have food on your table next month) that push this bullshit. No webdeveloper is happy with a crap website.
- grayhatter 6y ago
  If no web developer is happy with garbage, why do the majority of sites resemblance a dumpster fire? I'll fully back the claim the rank and file web developers are idiots. But primarily because the smart ones would never consider themselves just 'web developers'.

sintaxi 6y ago

Google favourably ranks "giant, ad laden slow websites with giant mess of analytics trackers" because they make money from the ads and they are the ones tracking you. They are giving you the disease and then trying to sell you "treatment" - which happens to be another disease.

pineconewarrior 6y ago

You're entirely blaming web developers for the decisions of marketing and management. Do you think we like including 1mb+ tracking scripts?

Jyaif 6y ago
Who do you think created the 1MB+ tracking scripts?
random5634 6y ago
Google has a big stick which they’ve used to whack marketing and management with. Listening to these developers rant about what is probably the fastest and most user friendly effort while they push out stuff that makes yours eyes bleed is ridiculous. All web developers should all be forced to browse with Adblock off and no auto play block. Mgmt if it shows a tiny bump in some ad click metric for a quarter will shove a popover out while they burn the long term value in the web and their sites. The fact that google has to push these types of things is embarrassing.
grayhatter 6y ago
I'm just following orders... Yeah, that doesn't exempt you from blame as much as you would like.

Griffinsauce 6y ago

Come on, don't call the rank and file web developers "idiots". They (we) carry some responsibility for this but it is most definitely shared with stakeholders (often higher ups that determine whether you have food on your table next month) that push this bullshit. No webdeveloper is happy with a crap website.

grayhatter 6y ago
If no web developer is happy with garbage, why do the majority of sites resemblance a dumpster fire? I'll fully back the claim the rank and file web developers are idiots. But primarily because the smart ones would never consider themselves just 'web developers'.