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Would Apple be required to make their car parts interchangeable with the generic aftermarket brands and car service centers? IIRC there is a law specifically fo
by go_prodev 6y ago
Would Apple be required to make their car parts interchangeable with the generic aftermarket brands and car service centers? IIRC there is a law specifically for car manufacturing.
I can imagine a dystopian future with custom non-standard parts, specialist repair centers, restrictions on what you can do with it, Apple being able to track everywhere we go, what we listen to, who is with us, and establishing a network of devices that work together but not with other brands. And that's just their phones, imagine their cars!
- wobbly_bush 6y agoI can't even begin to imagine how a walled garden for a car would look like. Perhaps there are examples from already existing car manufacturers.
- AirborneUnicorn 6y agoI’m not sure you have to look too much further than Tesla for a taste of it.
- echelon 6y agoWhen Keurig does it, it's widely panned. When $favoriteCompany does it, it's hailed as innovation and welcomed with open arms and open pockets. We shouldn't accept it anywhere. We need strong laws to prevent anyone from doing this.
- lttlrck 6y agoTaking your car today to a factory dealer or authorized shop for repairs and servicing is akin to a walled garden. They would use factory parts and factory pricing. There are lots of reasons why you might want to stay inside the walled garden. The higher the value of the car, the stronger they become.
- p1mrx 6y agoTry taking your non-Tesla EV to a Tesla DC charging station, or vice versa. They've finally announced a CCS1 adapter for the Korean market, but there's nothing for the US yet.
- bufferoverflow 6y agoEasy. Most important parts are chipped and are coded to only work with each other. Without the private keys you can't make any other genuine part from another Apple car to work in your car. They started doing that with iPhones.
- echelon 6y agoStallman is rolling in his grave. And he's not even dead yet.
- Corrado 6y agoActually, most equipment in a modern BMW is keyed to that particular vehicle and cannot be replaced without a visit to the dealer. Everything from the seats, to the radio, to the headlights are all on a CAN bus and have to be coded to that specific car before they will work.
- TrackerFF 6y agoJohn Deere? I mean, a lot of the recent right-to-repair controversy in the US has been centered around farmers, and their ongoing battles against machine producers / makers like John Deere. The gist is that you can't do jack sh!t on a modern John Deere, because all the software involved to diagnose/modify/operate their machines are strictly proprietary, and only available to the company, or authorized dealers and repair shops. Here's how this could work with personal cars: Let's say you purchase a Apple Car, and after a month the low washer fluid message starts flashing. Not only does it flash, but every 10 minutes or so it interferes with your whole media system, with some voice stating that you need to fill up on washer fluid. Turns out your washer fluid level is actually OK, seems to be some sensor error, or bug in the software. Problem is - you can't touch the car, mechanically or the software. Any modifications will essentially brick the car. Only way to get this error fixed, is to bring the car to some Apple repair shop, where a tech will fix the problem in 30 seconds, and bill you $1000 for the work. Other than the bricking part, that's the kind of stuff farmers are experiencing with quite expensive machines.
- ianai 6y agoThe John Deere example is so bad it almost seems manufactured to push out small farmers. It seems like the opposite of a system that claims to be about markets leading to efficiency.
- nojito 6y agoThe high end car market is already a walled garden for the most part.
- vasco 6y agoSpecialist repair centres and a policy against out of brand repairs is something Tesla has done already.
- gcristofol 6y agoCars that charge with lighting port...
- Bud 6y agoPlease don't waste people's time with comments like this.
- myself248 6y agoI mean it's an interesting point. Tesla made their own charging plug because they didn't like J1772, who's to say Apple wouldn't do the same? It's the one part of Apple's track record I don't think anyone can possibly argue against. If the landscape is dotted with three types of chargers, two of which are mutually incompatible, what does that mean for consumers and range?
- rootusrootus 6y ago> because they didn't like J1772 That's a polite interpretation. I assume the real reason is they wanted to create a walled garden. Seems like the EU, at least, forced their hand on that one.
- periya 6y agoPlease don't waste people's time with comments like this.