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Exactly. And typically, the forensics would try to determine if a driver that hit a pedestrian in a situation where it could have been avoided at least tried t

Exactly. And typically, the forensics would try to determine if a driver that hit a pedestrian in a situation where it could have been avoided at least tried to brake. If not, the driver would typically be charged for negligence and it would launch an investigation for murder.

garmaine 6y ago
> and it would launch an investigation for murder manslaughter, I assume?
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  People exaggerate things for internet points. In every jurisdiction where intent matters you would be correct.
  - BrandoElFollito 6y ago
    You may want to hold on with the pitchfork for a moment. TL;DR If @satellite2 is, like myself, French, we do not have separate words for "murder" and "manslaughter" in the everyday language. Longer version: we have the verb "tuer" ("to kill") which can be applied to people, flies, bears, time or boredom. It just mean to go from a state of "live/be" to "not live/be". We then have the noun "homicide". It is never used in the everyday language (but would be in legal proceedings and sometimes on the TV news when they want to qualify the act). Its etymology is "homme" + "occire" ("man" + "old French word for kill"). It means "to kill a man". There is no connotation beside that and you add the adjective "volontaire" or "involontaire" ("intended" or "unintended") to make the English difference between "murder" and "manslaughter". And then plenty of other legal qualifications (premeditation or not etc.) Again: this is a word you would not use in everyday conversation. Please note that there is no verb derived from "homicide". It is only a noun. In many cases people will use "murder" to mean "someone was killed somehow", while technically "murder" ("meurtre" in French) is an intended act. But since our "manslaughter" ("homicide volontaire") is too long we use "murder".
- BrandoElFollito 6y ago
  Yes, he meant "manslaughter" - see my comment below the other one of yours.

garmaine 6y ago

> and it would launch an investigation for murder manslaughter, I assume?

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
People exaggerate things for internet points. In every jurisdiction where intent matters you would be correct.
- BrandoElFollito 6y ago
  You may want to hold on with the pitchfork for a moment. TL;DR If @satellite2 is, like myself, French, we do not have separate words for "murder" and "manslaughter" in the everyday language. Longer version: we have the verb "tuer" ("to kill") which can be applied to people, flies, bears, time or boredom. It just mean to go from a state of "live/be" to "not live/be". We then have the noun "homicide". It is never used in the everyday language (but would be in legal proceedings and sometimes on the TV news when they want to qualify the act). Its etymology is "homme" + "occire" ("man" + "old French word for kill"). It means "to kill a man". There is no connotation beside that and you add the adjective "volontaire" or "involontaire" ("intended" or "unintended") to make the English difference between "murder" and "manslaughter". And then plenty of other legal qualifications (premeditation or not etc.) Again: this is a word you would not use in everyday conversation. Please note that there is no verb derived from "homicide". It is only a noun. In many cases people will use "murder" to mean "someone was killed somehow", while technically "murder" ("meurtre" in French) is an intended act. But since our "manslaughter" ("homicide volontaire") is too long we use "murder".
BrandoElFollito 6y ago
Yes, he meant "manslaughter" - see my comment below the other one of yours.