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There are multiple good reasons to enable wifi guest network from home. It is nice thing to do; like in case someone gets in a car accident nearby and doesn't h

by ArtDev 6y ago

There are multiple good reasons to enable wifi guest network from home. It is nice thing to do; like in case someone gets in a car accident nearby and doesn't have cell coverage/service. I have mine throttled and they can't access the rest of home network. Having a guest network also means you are not liable if someone misuses it: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/08/open-wifi-and-copyright-liability-setting-record#:~:text=The%20truth%20is%20that%20no,with%20neighbors%20and%20passers%20by https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/08/open-wifi-and-copyrigh....

skinnymuch 6y ago
Will your ISP or whoever is suing really care? It’ll cost you too much to defend yourself, I’d think.
sn_master 6y ago
911 doesn't need cell coverage from your specific provider or even a SIM card to be in the phone. It'll use whatever cellular network is there. https://www.scienceabc.com/innovation/how-can-mobile-phones-make-emergency-calls-when-theres-no-network-coverage.html https://www.scienceabc.com/innovation/how-can-mobile-phones-... If that was your sole reason for having it enabled, you can turn it off now. Public places can easily claim its not them, but for a house I can imagine it can get tricky, specially if its long-term abuse by a neighbor. Case in point: https://www.registercitizen.com/news/article/Man-mistakenly-charged-with-child-porn-after-12077668.php https://www.registercitizen.com/news/article/Man-mistakenly-... The truth was found after all, but the loss of reputation and legal stress are not worth it, specially in your Good Samaritan scenario. As a side note, I like that almost all new cars will automatically call the police for you when they sense an accident, using built-in cellular systems.
- kiwijamo 6y ago
  This is not the case in all countries. I am aware that telcos in New Zealand, for example, will not accept emergency calls from phones that don't have a SIM card. However they will accept emergency calls from any phone with a valid SIM card.
  - sn_master 6y ago
    OP referenced a US-specific rule, so I assume they can still turn off their guest network. Thanks for sharing about New Zealand! SIM cards should get less relevant over time with e-SIM. Smart watches are leading the way in their adoption.
patrakov 6y ago
> Having a guest network also means you are not liable if someone misuses it Wrong. Remember Dmitry Bogatov's case. Yes it was a Tor exit, not an open WiFi, but it doesn't matter. Even worse, there is now a law here in Russia that prohibits running WiFi access points that don't take technical or organizational measures to identify (e.g. get passport or phone number of) the person who is connecting.
e_proxus 6y ago
In the US maybe, but internationally this varies. Be very careful doing this and consult your local laws before doing so. In many countries the owner of the contract is liable for anything originating from that line.

by ArtDev 6y ago

skinnymuch 6y ago

Will your ISP or whoever is suing really care? It’ll cost you too much to defend yourself, I’d think.

sn_master 6y ago

911 doesn't need cell coverage from your specific provider or even a SIM card to be in the phone. It'll use whatever cellular network is there. https://www.scienceabc.com/innovation/how-can-mobile-phones-make-emergency-calls-when-theres-no-network-coverage.html https://www.scienceabc.com/innovation/how-can-mobile-phones-... If that was your sole reason for having it enabled, you can turn it off now. Public places can easily claim its not them, but for a house I can imagine it can get tricky, specially if its long-term abuse by a neighbor. Case in point: https://www.registercitizen.com/news/article/Man-mistakenly-charged-with-child-porn-after-12077668.php https://www.registercitizen.com/news/article/Man-mistakenly-... The truth was found after all, but the loss of reputation and legal stress are not worth it, specially in your Good Samaritan scenario. As a side note, I like that almost all new cars will automatically call the police for you when they sense an accident, using built-in cellular systems.

kiwijamo 6y ago
This is not the case in all countries. I am aware that telcos in New Zealand, for example, will not accept emergency calls from phones that don't have a SIM card. However they will accept emergency calls from any phone with a valid SIM card.
- sn_master 6y ago
  OP referenced a US-specific rule, so I assume they can still turn off their guest network. Thanks for sharing about New Zealand! SIM cards should get less relevant over time with e-SIM. Smart watches are leading the way in their adoption.

patrakov 6y ago

> Having a guest network also means you are not liable if someone misuses it Wrong. Remember Dmitry Bogatov's case. Yes it was a Tor exit, not an open WiFi, but it doesn't matter. Even worse, there is now a law here in Russia that prohibits running WiFi access points that don't take technical or organizational measures to identify (e.g. get passport or phone number of) the person who is connecting.

e_proxus 6y ago

In the US maybe, but internationally this varies. Be very careful doing this and consult your local laws before doing so. In many countries the owner of the contract is liable for anything originating from that line.