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The annoying thing is, most people would agree that the whole system sucks... until you start talking about politics and suddenly you'd think a bunch of people

The annoying thing is, most people would agree that the whole system sucks... until you start talking about politics and suddenly you'd think a bunch of people have a love affair with their insurance company and healthcare providers.

DangitBobby 6y ago
"People love their insurance!" Is a dead giveaway that a politician is a sock puppet. Biden kept saying it during the primaries.
- agensaequivocum 6y ago
  I'm not a politician and I will say: I love my insurance. Because it's actually pretty great.
  - DangitBobby 6y ago
    My insurance is good, but I wouldn't need it if we had a sensible alternative, and neither would you. And many other less fortunate people (including those in my immediate family) wouldn't need it either. Not wanting to give up your insurance because you "love" it (fucking gag me) is "fuck you I got mine" energy. Cancerous to a society.
  - 8note 6y ago
    I hate my insurance. I hear its great for America, but it's shit compared to back home
uoaei 6y ago
> until you start listening to politicians who have a vested interest in making the general public believe such things FTFY People "love their health insurance" when they have it forever through their employment, and feel safe in their position. 80% of people in the US, including 50% of Republicans, support M4A precisely because they are not part of the upper-crust minority who are afforded such luxuries.
- lotsofpulp 6y ago
  I've never heard of a prominent Republican politician voice support for taxpayer funded healthcare. It would require a significant increase in federal income/FICA taxes. And in the enormous portion of federal spending that Medicare/Medicaid is, it doesn't even include outpatient services/medications for everyone over 65. Of course, this would be mitigated by the elimination of health insurance premiums and other redundancies, but a federal taxpayer funded solution would result in a more transparent wealth transfer, whereas the employer sponsored tax deductible health insurance gimmick allows for better discrimination on who receives healthcare, and ideally reduces the amount of wealth transfer by reducing the healthcare many people receive.
  - uoaei 6y ago
    > I've never heard of a prominent Republican politician voice support for taxpayer funded healthcare. Just goes to show where our "representative" democracy has gone. The number I quoted is for voters registered Republican.
    - lotsofpulp 6y ago
      People will talk the talk, but they won’t walk the walk when it comes to paying. My conversations are usually reminiscent of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2TxX0E4U1A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2TxX0E4U1A

DangitBobby 6y ago

"People love their insurance!" Is a dead giveaway that a politician is a sock puppet. Biden kept saying it during the primaries.

agensaequivocum 6y ago
I'm not a politician and I will say: I love my insurance. Because it's actually pretty great.
- DangitBobby 6y ago
  My insurance is good, but I wouldn't need it if we had a sensible alternative, and neither would you. And many other less fortunate people (including those in my immediate family) wouldn't need it either. Not wanting to give up your insurance because you "love" it (fucking gag me) is "fuck you I got mine" energy. Cancerous to a society.
- 8note 6y ago
  I hate my insurance. I hear its great for America, but it's shit compared to back home

uoaei 6y ago

> until you start listening to politicians who have a vested interest in making the general public believe such things FTFY People "love their health insurance" when they have it forever through their employment, and feel safe in their position. 80% of people in the US, including 50% of Republicans, support M4A precisely because they are not part of the upper-crust minority who are afforded such luxuries.

lotsofpulp 6y ago
I've never heard of a prominent Republican politician voice support for taxpayer funded healthcare. It would require a significant increase in federal income/FICA taxes. And in the enormous portion of federal spending that Medicare/Medicaid is, it doesn't even include outpatient services/medications for everyone over 65. Of course, this would be mitigated by the elimination of health insurance premiums and other redundancies, but a federal taxpayer funded solution would result in a more transparent wealth transfer, whereas the employer sponsored tax deductible health insurance gimmick allows for better discrimination on who receives healthcare, and ideally reduces the amount of wealth transfer by reducing the healthcare many people receive.
- uoaei 6y ago
  > I've never heard of a prominent Republican politician voice support for taxpayer funded healthcare. Just goes to show where our "representative" democracy has gone. The number I quoted is for voters registered Republican.
  - lotsofpulp 6y ago
    People will talk the talk, but they won’t walk the walk when it comes to paying. My conversations are usually reminiscent of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2TxX0E4U1A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2TxX0E4U1A