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Well, Apple doesn’t include chargers on their new iPhones to protect the planet and their keynotes are feel-good orgy of virtuosity. Hard to believe they exploi
by PedroBatista 6y ago
Well, Apple doesn’t include chargers on their new iPhones to protect the planet and their keynotes are feel-good orgy of virtuosity. Hard to believe they exploit people...
- arethuza 6y agoIs that new, I got a new iPhone in July and it came with a charger?
- foxfoxfox 6y agoIt’s the 12 that doesn’t. The logic being that everyone already has a draw full of chargers and cables so it makes sense to remove the brick from the packaging which slims it down and reduces waste.
- MaxikCZ 6y agoDont forget the 12 is first iPhone supporting fast charging, which none of the previous iPhone chargers supports. So if you want to utilize its full potential, you need to spend bucks.
- gambiting 6y agoWait, that's absolutely not true. IPhone 8[0] was the first one that supported fast charging, and it didn't come with a compatible charger in the box. You had to use an 18W USB-C charger and a USB-C to lighting cable, neither of which were in the box. But the phone supported it. So the same argument was true for years and yet people behave as if it's new. [0] https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208137#:~:text=You%20can%20fast%20charge%20your,battery%20in%20around%2030%20minutes.&text=Fast%20charging%20works%20when%20you,96W%20USB-C%20Power%20Adapter https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208137#:~:text=You%20can%2...
- chrisseaton 6y ago> Dont forget the 12 is first iPhone supporting fast charging This is beyond false and way into absolute nonsense. Been there since iPhone 8. https://www.ipitaka.com/blogs/news/everything-you-need-to-know-about-fast-charging-your-iphone https://www.ipitaka.com/blogs/news/everything-you-need-to-kn...
- pc86 6y agoSo if you have an iPhone 9, 10, or 11 charger that came with the phone, you can utilize fast charging for the 12?
- chrisseaton 6y agoYes the same fast charging still works. It’s the same protocol and connector.
- hajimemash 6y agoWTF MAN do you always spout lies so confidently xD
- PedroBatista 6y agoCouldn't they just make it optional? When buying the iPhone 12 one could chose to get the charger ( free ).
- chrisseaton 6y agoWhy should it be free?
- MereInterest 6y agoBecause it is necessary for a functioning device. Because they made changes to their charger during that generation for improved performance. "Free" is a loaded term in this context. It should be included in the purchase.
- chrisseaton 6y agoYou can’t use a paintbrush without paint but they still sell them separately. If you need one, buy one. I don’t see any practical, technical, ethical reason to include one. I see environmental and simplicity reasons to not include one.
- pc86 6y agoI can see simplicity reasons to sell the user guide and box separately, too. Why not just hand them $1k in cash and get an unboxed phone? Much simpler than packaging and credit cards. The means by which people will bend over backwards to paint Apple in a good light is insane.
- chrisseaton 6y agoThis attitude leads to mountains of e-waste. No thanks. But yeah drop the user guide too and put it on a website, good idea. The box, not that because it protects the product leading to less wastage.
- TheRealSteel 6y agoExcept that they changed the cable for the iPhone 12, so none of your existing chargers work.
- benjymo 6y agoBut you can use your existing charging cable. But apples cables are notorious for breaking easily. But I have been using the same cable since X years and it's working fine.
- kube-system 6y agoMy old Qi charger works just fine
- cbozeman 6y agoWhich is rather humorous, because if I buy a $1500 phone, I want and expect a big ass box with fancy ass packaging, and I expect a charger, and frankly I expect high-end earbuds. Goddamn, this is why I really fucking hate Apple so much. Its why I fucking hate the fact that I picked up a base model Mac Mini. I can't argue its better for many use cases and that I switch between it and my 3900X workstation throughout the day for various workloads, but fucking Christ in Heaven it pisses me off that I have to, to begin with. I fucking hate giving that shit company even a dollar.
- ben_w 6y agoYes, as of the iPhone 12 range. Here’s a report from October: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/10/13/iphone-12-ships-without-earpods-or-charger/ https://www.macrumors.com/2020/10/13/iphone-12-ships-without...
- Jipazgqmnm 6y ago> to protect the planet Oh, hello there, my breakfast. If it were about the planet they would say something like: "You're eligible for a free charger if you need it." It's the company that sells headphone ear cushions for 77 EUR.
- christophilus 6y agoHe was using heavy sarcasm.
- ldrndll 6y agoI'm fairly certain the parent was being sarcastic. I completely agree, if it was about the planet and not just saving money on their BoM they could (should?) at a minimum have included a discount voucher for a USB-C charger.
- tomp 6y agoCan you explain this? I don't understand the reasoning. Surely it's better for the planet to manufacture less USB-C chargers? Especially assuming that people/families likely have them already (from iPhones or other devices they've bought before)
- 411111111111111 6y agoIf it was about the environment they wouldn't have included a charger either, yes. (They wouldn't sell disposable in-ear headphones either. No exchanging batteries) But if it wasn't about money, they would've added a coupon/code to buy a charger because the product is useless without one... Just because the actual action can also be spun in q environmental friendly way doesn't mean the company actually did it for that. They didn't want to include a charger and just used the environment as an excuse so they can argue all criticism away