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Many have tried; there are a lot of bodies on those hills. Take chargebacks. Not only does the merchant who gets a chargeback lose the money, they're typicall
by ericbarrett 6y ago
Many have tried; there are a lot of bodies on those hills. Take chargebacks. Not only does the merchant who gets a chargeback lose the money, they're typically hit with a $20-$100 fee on top. It's very common and an old trick to use stolen credit cards, download all the premium content, and redistribute on your own site. Or maybe just because your spouse found the line item on your credit card and you're embarrassed. The chargeback rate for the adult industry is said to be about 15%; the vast majority of merchant accounts will drop you after reaching 1%.
Porn spam is an unbelievable technical challenge because it's so damn profitable. If you fight them you are fighting the best—and an army of hundreds of thousands of the not-so-best, who can overwhelm you with sheer numbers. Also the spammers tend to be vindictive kooks, and active efforts against them can bring DDoSes, swatting, and other unpleasantries down on you and yours.
Child porn and revenge porn are ever-present. You will have to moderate it, which means people will have to see the images. Also people like to use porn sites to distribute snuff imagery (videos of suffering/torture/death). Imagine the job of a Facebook moderator except ultra-concentrated.
I don't think the moralistic and execution arguments are opposed; rather they are an ill-virtued cycle of reinforcement. The industry is shady and filled with bad people because it's said to be shady and filled with bad people. I do expect SV & friends to keep trying, because there's just so much money!
- belorn 6y agoThe question, why does not streaming sites for music and video have the problem where someone use a stolen credit cards, download all the premium content, and redistribute on your own site? I would even assume that this is actually happening pretty regularly with different piracy scenes. If you want to rip content with as minimum amount of traceability, identity theft (cc fraud under a different name) would be high on the list. Afterward people can just copy the copies. The question then is why would it be different for porn?
- ericbarrett 6y agoMy guess: Most porn doesn’t have a mega-studio with mega-lawyers policing huge swaths of the net for violations. Most music and movies do.
- techdragon 6y agoChargeback is significantly an issue due to scummy business practices in use by enough of the websites. $1 trials that auto-renew at $100 per year and other such predatory credit card pricing tactics. There’s a significant percentage of the industry that is reliant on these tactics to survive and it results in the huge difference in credit card chargebacks compared to other industries. That said this is a situation that is slowly improving thanks to competition. However this is likely going to be a stain on the porn industry for decades after the problem is mostly gone due to the way the financial industry does risk analysis.