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"Invoking racism and gender discrimination when it’s not the reason, causes more racism" So, wait, you're saying if someone who's not a racist gets called a ra

"Invoking racism and gender discrimination when it’s not the reason, causes more racism" So, wait, you're saying if someone who's not a racist gets called a racist that's going to be enough to turn him in to a racist? If that's all it took they were probably racist to begin with.

throwaway201103 6y ago
All humans are racist to one degree or another.
- pmoriarty 6y ago
  That racism is "natural" and that "everyone's racist" are common (false) claims among racists, who try to use them as excuses for their own racism.
  - rectang 6y ago
    I'd consider myself very socially liberal, but I accept that at least everyone experiences prejudiced thoughts and impulses. From that premise we can proceed to the idea that "racists" act on those impulses, while people who are "not racist" resist them. However, these impulses can be extremely subtle, and no matter how we struggle, I don't believe that that any human being lives a life avoiding racist acts entirely. Would you still argue that I'm a racist perpetuating a false claim as an excuse for my own racism? I mean, I accept that I'm prejudiced and every once in a while racist despite my best efforts, so that part is true in a sense. I'm don't think I'm trying to excuse myself, though.
- tpush 6y ago
  Please leave this "race realism" shit off HN, thanks.
KMag 6y ago
I think they're referring to a more long-term and less direct causality when they say crying wolf causes more racism. In my reading of the GP, "leads to" would be a better word choice. > enough to turn him in to a racist If I were to call you a sexist for your choice of pronouns (and throw in "self hate is the worst kind" if your pronouns happen to be he/him), and you were to see several other likely unwarranted accusations being thrown around against you and others, you'd be less likely to take notice when real sexism is called out. Fewer people taking notice of real actionable cases of sexism would likely result in more sexism over time.

throwaway201103 6y ago

All humans are racist to one degree or another.

pmoriarty 6y ago
That racism is "natural" and that "everyone's racist" are common (false) claims among racists, who try to use them as excuses for their own racism.
- rectang 6y ago
  I'd consider myself very socially liberal, but I accept that at least everyone experiences prejudiced thoughts and impulses. From that premise we can proceed to the idea that "racists" act on those impulses, while people who are "not racist" resist them. However, these impulses can be extremely subtle, and no matter how we struggle, I don't believe that that any human being lives a life avoiding racist acts entirely. Would you still argue that I'm a racist perpetuating a false claim as an excuse for my own racism? I mean, I accept that I'm prejudiced and every once in a while racist despite my best efforts, so that part is true in a sense. I'm don't think I'm trying to excuse myself, though.
tpush 6y ago
Please leave this "race realism" shit off HN, thanks.

KMag 6y ago

I think they're referring to a more long-term and less direct causality when they say crying wolf causes more racism. In my reading of the GP, "leads to" would be a better word choice. > enough to turn him in to a racist If I were to call you a sexist for your choice of pronouns (and throw in "self hate is the worst kind" if your pronouns happen to be he/him), and you were to see several other likely unwarranted accusations being thrown around against you and others, you'd be less likely to take notice when real sexism is called out. Fewer people taking notice of real actionable cases of sexism would likely result in more sexism over time.