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This is so incongruous. First we had Russia in league with Trump, now we have them hacking the government. Its like the 2016 election had massive fraud due to

This is so incongruous. First we had Russia in league with Trump, now we have them hacking the government. Its like the 2016 election had massive fraud due to the results and now the 2020 election couldn't possibly have any fraud at all.

Mc_Big_G 6y ago
The "hack" of the 2016 election wasn't voter fraud. It was Russia hacking Clinton's emails and the DNC, exactly like Trump asked them to. In addition, Russia engaged in massive ad campaigns using bots and troll farms that benefited Trump. Literally no one ever accused Russia of changing votes or engaging in voter fraud. This is why it's so difficult to discuss anything on the internet. You've done no research at all.
- Fjolsvith 6y ago
  Russia #2 according to Hillary: https://www.axios.com/16-things-hillary-clinton-blames-for-her-election-loss-1513305545-cf6505a6-76a8-49a0-989a-1be67190d4ed.html https://www.axios.com/16-things-hillary-clinton-blames-for-h... I really don't think Russia is at fault for these cyberattacks. They learned painfully that they couldn't beat us economically. China, OTOH, is just now learning that lesson.
  - shadowgovt 6y ago
    Clinton's comment that you highlighted isn't at all incompatible with Mc_Big_G's explanation. The Russian influence on the 2016 election was via use of advertising as a propaganda vector and compromising email servers, not compromising the voting mechanisms or machinery directly. No reason to risk the blowback from changing even a single vote if you can instead just convince millions of Americans via micro-targeted advertising that a con artist who lives in a gold-plated room atop his skyscraper is somehow their savior from sclerotic government, or that the same con artist is less corrupt than his political opponent (having no political track record in which to generate a history of corruption).

Mc_Big_G 6y ago

The "hack" of the 2016 election wasn't voter fraud. It was Russia hacking Clinton's emails and the DNC, exactly like Trump asked them to. In addition, Russia engaged in massive ad campaigns using bots and troll farms that benefited Trump. Literally no one ever accused Russia of changing votes or engaging in voter fraud. This is why it's so difficult to discuss anything on the internet. You've done no research at all.

Fjolsvith 6y ago
Russia #2 according to Hillary: https://www.axios.com/16-things-hillary-clinton-blames-for-her-election-loss-1513305545-cf6505a6-76a8-49a0-989a-1be67190d4ed.html https://www.axios.com/16-things-hillary-clinton-blames-for-h... I really don't think Russia is at fault for these cyberattacks. They learned painfully that they couldn't beat us economically. China, OTOH, is just now learning that lesson.
- shadowgovt 6y ago
  Clinton's comment that you highlighted isn't at all incompatible with Mc_Big_G's explanation. The Russian influence on the 2016 election was via use of advertising as a propaganda vector and compromising email servers, not compromising the voting mechanisms or machinery directly. No reason to risk the blowback from changing even a single vote if you can instead just convince millions of Americans via micro-targeted advertising that a con artist who lives in a gold-plated room atop his skyscraper is somehow their savior from sclerotic government, or that the same con artist is less corrupt than his political opponent (having no political track record in which to generate a history of corruption).