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Does Maori have a script?

sam_bristow 6y ago
The was no writing system in pre-European NZ. These days Māori is written using the Latin alphabet with macrons, or Māori braille (which I'm unfamiliar with).
- jelliclesfarm 6y ago
  got it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_language [..]The Māori language did not have an indigenous writing system. Missionaries arriving from about 1814 learned to speak Māori, and introduced the Latin alphabet. In 1817, Tītore and his junior relative, Tui, sailed to England.[7] They visited Professor Samuel Lee at Cambridge University and assisted him in the preparation of a grammar and vocabulary of Māori. Thomas Kendall travelled to London with Hongi Hika and Waikato (a lower-ranking Ngāpuhi chief) in 1820, during which time further work was done with Professor Lee, who gave phonetic spellings to a written form of the language, which resulted in a definitive orthography based on Northern usage.[8] By 1830 the Church Missionary Society (CMS) missionaries had revised the orthography for writing the Māori language; for example, Kiddeekiddee became, as in the modern spelling, Kerikeri.[9] Māori distinguishes between long and short vowels; modern written texts usually mark the long vowels with a macron. Some older texts represent long vowels with double letters (for example: Maaori rather than Māori); for modern exceptions see § Long vowels below. [..]
  - pixel_fcker 6y ago
    Interestingly the written form uses a different pronunciation to the most common spoken form today, so e.g. “whanau” is pronounced “fa-nau” not “wha-nau”
jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
Just scarification, tattoos and petroglyphs. Without paper, the next best thing is to write one's entire life story upon the skin, or carve a symbol into a rock. It's not phonetic, but it does preserve information for many years, so I think it counts. Of course tattoo and scarification were only for people who had actually done anything worth remembering.
- jelliclesfarm 6y ago
  do they have meaning..like coming of age etc? or is it art?
  - jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
    Think of Maori tattoos like a collection of facts about the person bearing the tattoo. Scarification is the same idea, except those facts are REALLY important, too important for a tattoo which is less memorable than a scar. Examples of facts would be: family of origin, affilliated organization, past achievements, place of birth, occupation, etc. Markings would be born on the front of the body to make introductions very quick and easy: you can just look at a stranger and you already know a lot about him or her, and assuming you have good manners, you would also know what etiquette to observe when meeting for the first time.
    - jelliclesfarm 6y ago
      I can see how it would have been useful in a small community. But I guess being here..I can’t help wondering..isn’t that a privacy/security risk?
      - jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
        It is a little dystopian isn't it? In European history tattoos specifically are associated with punishment, judgement and exploitation: Cain was "marked" and banished from eden, slaves and prisoners both past and present have born brands or tattoos which marked them as second-class citizens. In the United States, being marked by the government specifically is considered a sign of the apocalypse so there is a very strong fear about such things. However this can have a positive effect in a different context. Maori don't come from a Christian background, so the act of marking people has a completely different meaning. If my life story is permanently written on my skin, that's a strong motivator to live well and do things I can be proud of. If my ancestry is part of my public identity, then I must also be excellent, so that my actions reflect well on my descendents and those descendents have a good role model to emulate in their lives. I think it encourages a strong sense of individual responsibility, a focus on supporting the community and multigenerational thinking.

The was no writing system in pre-European NZ. These days Māori is written using the Latin alphabet with macrons, or Māori braille (which I'm unfamiliar with).

jelliclesfarm 6y ago
got it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_language [..]The Māori language did not have an indigenous writing system. Missionaries arriving from about 1814 learned to speak Māori, and introduced the Latin alphabet. In 1817, Tītore and his junior relative, Tui, sailed to England.[7] They visited Professor Samuel Lee at Cambridge University and assisted him in the preparation of a grammar and vocabulary of Māori. Thomas Kendall travelled to London with Hongi Hika and Waikato (a lower-ranking Ngāpuhi chief) in 1820, during which time further work was done with Professor Lee, who gave phonetic spellings to a written form of the language, which resulted in a definitive orthography based on Northern usage.[8] By 1830 the Church Missionary Society (CMS) missionaries had revised the orthography for writing the Māori language; for example, Kiddeekiddee became, as in the modern spelling, Kerikeri.[9] Māori distinguishes between long and short vowels; modern written texts usually mark the long vowels with a macron. Some older texts represent long vowels with double letters (for example: Maaori rather than Māori); for modern exceptions see § Long vowels below. [..]
- pixel_fcker 6y ago
  Interestingly the written form uses a different pronunciation to the most common spoken form today, so e.g. “whanau” is pronounced “fa-nau” not “wha-nau”

jacobwilliamroy 6y ago

Just scarification, tattoos and petroglyphs. Without paper, the next best thing is to write one's entire life story upon the skin, or carve a symbol into a rock. It's not phonetic, but it does preserve information for many years, so I think it counts. Of course tattoo and scarification were only for people who had actually done anything worth remembering.

jelliclesfarm 6y ago
do they have meaning..like coming of age etc? or is it art?
- jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
  Think of Maori tattoos like a collection of facts about the person bearing the tattoo. Scarification is the same idea, except those facts are REALLY important, too important for a tattoo which is less memorable than a scar. Examples of facts would be: family of origin, affilliated organization, past achievements, place of birth, occupation, etc. Markings would be born on the front of the body to make introductions very quick and easy: you can just look at a stranger and you already know a lot about him or her, and assuming you have good manners, you would also know what etiquette to observe when meeting for the first time.
  - jelliclesfarm 6y ago
    I can see how it would have been useful in a small community. But I guess being here..I can’t help wondering..isn’t that a privacy/security risk?
    - jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
      It is a little dystopian isn't it? In European history tattoos specifically are associated with punishment, judgement and exploitation: Cain was "marked" and banished from eden, slaves and prisoners both past and present have born brands or tattoos which marked them as second-class citizens. In the United States, being marked by the government specifically is considered a sign of the apocalypse so there is a very strong fear about such things. However this can have a positive effect in a different context. Maori don't come from a Christian background, so the act of marking people has a completely different meaning. If my life story is permanently written on my skin, that's a strong motivator to live well and do things I can be proud of. If my ancestry is part of my public identity, then I must also be excellent, so that my actions reflect well on my descendents and those descendents have a good role model to emulate in their lives. I think it encourages a strong sense of individual responsibility, a focus on supporting the community and multigenerational thinking.