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Have you considered a desktop? They are much faster than laptops, who are constrained by thermal issues. It’s hard to dissipate 500W+ of heat from a laptop-size

Have you considered a desktop? They are much faster than laptops, who are constrained by thermal issues. It’s hard to dissipate 500W+ of heat from a laptop-sized thing, they simply don’t have enough available surface for air intakes and exhausts. If you want a smaller one to be occasionally portable, there’s Mini-ITX. I currently use a PC I built in this case: https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/node/node-202/black/ https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/node/node-202/...

yread 6y ago
Second the Node, very portable, quiet. It is a bit difficult to assemble though. And you need to double check your parts will fit
- Const-me 6y ago
  Indeed, the case is good, but they should have written better documentation. I have found out I needed to unscrew the small front I/O panel PCB when removing the back side of the case. Then reattach back once the panel is clipped in. http://const.me/tmp/node202-front-panel.jpg http://const.me/tmp/node202-front-panel.jpg
- arvinsim 6y ago
  A current favorite among beginner Mini-ITX builders is the CoolerMaster NR200. It's a bit big compared to other small form factor options(still smaller than midtower cases) but the hardware compatibility is great! I manage to fit in a 5950x CPU and 3080 GPU with just an air cooler and it's working without thermal issues.
aidenn0 6y ago
500W? That's an absurd amount of heat. I suppose they don't make 75W GPUs anymore (I'll replace my 1050Ti when they do), but still...
- Const-me 6y ago
  500W is pretty average for a desktop PC. In my particular computer, CPU, GPU and display are rated to 65W, 250W, and 80W respectively. That’s 400W just for these 3 most power-hungry components, under high load/maximum brightness. Lower-end office PCs often ship with ~500W PSU. Gaming PCs typically include 700W PSU or even more. For instance, nVidia recommends 750W PSU for their released but unavailable RTX 3080, that GPU itself is rated to 320W. Display ain’t included as it has a separate power plug. When viewed as a heater, computers are almost 100% efficient. Almost all electricity they consume becomes heat. The exceptions are light from display escaping through windows, and radio from WiFi carrying energy through walls, both negligible.
  - Too 6y ago
    Pure electric isn't considered efficient when it comes to heating. Heat exchangers, somewhat counterintuitively, have a lot more than 100% efficiency. Especially when combined with other sources of heat such as the ground or the sun. This is just considering the colder season of the year.
    - Const-me 6y ago
      That paragraph explains why consumed electricity is ~equal to the heat that needs to be removed by coolers. I'm not advocating to heat space with computers.
- tatami 6y ago
  You can get the 1650 that runs with 75W. There's even a passive model out there, the Palit KalmX. I refuse to buy a GPU with extra power connectors.
  - Const-me 6y ago
    > You can get the 1650 that runs with 75W The difference between these two is rather small, despite 4 years difference. 1050Ti delivers about 2TFlops, 1650 about 2.6 TFlops. Other specs (VRAM bandwidth, fillrate) are pretty close as well. Generally, I only upgrade components when I can get at least 2x improvement.

yread 6y ago

Second the Node, very portable, quiet. It is a bit difficult to assemble though. And you need to double check your parts will fit

Const-me 6y ago
Indeed, the case is good, but they should have written better documentation. I have found out I needed to unscrew the small front I/O panel PCB when removing the back side of the case. Then reattach back once the panel is clipped in. http://const.me/tmp/node202-front-panel.jpg http://const.me/tmp/node202-front-panel.jpg
arvinsim 6y ago
A current favorite among beginner Mini-ITX builders is the CoolerMaster NR200. It's a bit big compared to other small form factor options(still smaller than midtower cases) but the hardware compatibility is great! I manage to fit in a 5950x CPU and 3080 GPU with just an air cooler and it's working without thermal issues.

aidenn0 6y ago

500W? That's an absurd amount of heat. I suppose they don't make 75W GPUs anymore (I'll replace my 1050Ti when they do), but still...

Const-me 6y ago
500W is pretty average for a desktop PC. In my particular computer, CPU, GPU and display are rated to 65W, 250W, and 80W respectively. That’s 400W just for these 3 most power-hungry components, under high load/maximum brightness. Lower-end office PCs often ship with ~500W PSU. Gaming PCs typically include 700W PSU or even more. For instance, nVidia recommends 750W PSU for their released but unavailable RTX 3080, that GPU itself is rated to 320W. Display ain’t included as it has a separate power plug. When viewed as a heater, computers are almost 100% efficient. Almost all electricity they consume becomes heat. The exceptions are light from display escaping through windows, and radio from WiFi carrying energy through walls, both negligible.
- Too 6y ago
  Pure electric isn't considered efficient when it comes to heating. Heat exchangers, somewhat counterintuitively, have a lot more than 100% efficiency. Especially when combined with other sources of heat such as the ground or the sun. This is just considering the colder season of the year.
  - Const-me 6y ago
    That paragraph explains why consumed electricity is ~equal to the heat that needs to be removed by coolers. I'm not advocating to heat space with computers.
tatami 6y ago
You can get the 1650 that runs with 75W. There's even a passive model out there, the Palit KalmX. I refuse to buy a GPU with extra power connectors.
- Const-me 6y ago
  > You can get the 1650 that runs with 75W The difference between these two is rather small, despite 4 years difference. 1050Ti delivers about 2TFlops, 1650 about 2.6 TFlops. Other specs (VRAM bandwidth, fillrate) are pretty close as well. Generally, I only upgrade components when I can get at least 2x improvement.