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> Especially in the US, where it seems the Right has moved further over than the Left: As of 2014, when that Atlantic piece was written, that may have been tru

> Especially in the US, where it seems the Right has moved further over than the Left: As of 2014, when that Atlantic piece was written, that may have been true. As of 2020, the left has also radicalized itself: * https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1339984166935359488?s=20 https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1339984166935359488?s=... * https://www.thenation.com/article/society/black-votes-reparations-gerrymandering/ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/black-votes-repara... * https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178/one-authors-argument-in-defense-of-looting https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178...

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throw0101a 6y ago
There have always been radical people on both the Left and Right over the decades. But how much traction do those radicals have on getting elected politicians and on actual policy? It used to be that the GOP had little time for people like the John Birch Society. Now there are Qanon 'followers' (?) being elected under the auspices of the GOP party ticket. Vox's Ezra Klein recently released a book on the matter (I have not yet read it), and going from this review, while there has been a shift on the Left, it is still the case in 2020 that the problem is generally asymmetric, and the majority has been on the right: * https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/polarization-republicans-democracy-ezra-klein-book-review.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/polarization-republi... After all: there are people on the Right talking about a martial law and a military coup to 'correct' the election results.
- philwelch 6y ago
  I went out of my way to pick the CDC, The Nation, and NPR specifically in order to avoid accusations of nutpicking. As the CDC example shows, you don't actually need to elect politicians in order to enact policy. > But how much traction do those radicals have on getting elected politicians and on actual policy? “We need to not ever use the word ‘socialist’ or ‘socialism’ ever again. . . . We lost good members because of that,” Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.), who narrowly leads in her reelection bid, said heatedly. “If we are classifying Tuesday as a success . . . we will get f---ing torn apart in 2022.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-democrats-pelosi-election/2020/11/05/1ddae5ca-1f6e-11eb-90dd-abd0f7086a91_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-democrats-pelo... > Vox's Ezra Klein recently released a book on the matter (I have not yet read it), and going from this review, while there has been a shift on the Left, it is still the case in 2020 that the problem is generally asymmetric, and the majority has been on the right Ezra Klein isn't exactly an unbiased source here.

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throw0101a 6y ago

There have always been radical people on both the Left and Right over the decades. But how much traction do those radicals have on getting elected politicians and on actual policy? It used to be that the GOP had little time for people like the John Birch Society. Now there are Qanon 'followers' (?) being elected under the auspices of the GOP party ticket. Vox's Ezra Klein recently released a book on the matter (I have not yet read it), and going from this review, while there has been a shift on the Left, it is still the case in 2020 that the problem is generally asymmetric, and the majority has been on the right: * https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/polarization-republicans-democracy-ezra-klein-book-review.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/polarization-republi... After all: there are people on the Right talking about a martial law and a military coup to 'correct' the election results.

philwelch 6y ago
I went out of my way to pick the CDC, The Nation, and NPR specifically in order to avoid accusations of nutpicking. As the CDC example shows, you don't actually need to elect politicians in order to enact policy. > But how much traction do those radicals have on getting elected politicians and on actual policy? “We need to not ever use the word ‘socialist’ or ‘socialism’ ever again. . . . We lost good members because of that,” Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.), who narrowly leads in her reelection bid, said heatedly. “If we are classifying Tuesday as a success . . . we will get f---ing torn apart in 2022.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-democrats-pelosi-election/2020/11/05/1ddae5ca-1f6e-11eb-90dd-abd0f7086a91_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-democrats-pelo... > Vox's Ezra Klein recently released a book on the matter (I have not yet read it), and going from this review, while there has been a shift on the Left, it is still the case in 2020 that the problem is generally asymmetric, and the majority has been on the right Ezra Klein isn't exactly an unbiased source here.