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> Do your best to be confident, kind, and engaged and you will run circles around the characters enumerated here, even the "winners". Yes! That's why we have g

> Do your best to be confident, kind, and engaged and you will run circles around the characters enumerated here, even the "winners". Yes! That's why we have great leaders like Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, Mark Zuckerberg,Elizabeth Holmes, Vladimir Putin. If anything the guide was not cynical enough. I saw stuff 10x worse in corporate environments.

throwaway09223 6y ago
I'm sure you've seen terrible behavior in corporate environments. I have too. But I've also seen wonderfully productive, supportive behavior. I've seen leaders who uplift and who succeed by helping those around them. I've learned to pay attention to who I work for, or with, and to support the kind of people who I want to see running things. It's a grave error to only consider the worst while ignoring the best.
- cambalache 6y ago
  > But I've also seen wonderfully productive, supportive behavior. Me too, 99% coming from the rank and file, cleaning personnel, etc. A VP wont sacrifice his chances of promotion to help you, and if he has to fire you to get it,he will.
  - medium_burrito 6y ago
    I think I've seen one VP ever take the fall instead of firing an employee, and that was a principal engineer who was the VP's friend. Moral victory- but both the VP and the engineer were fired in the end. That said, I believe this is an isolated and extremely rare incident.
lostcolony 6y ago
I think it's clear even by your tone you recognize those aren't great leaders. Are you saying you feel they are -successful- leaders? More so than the kind ones? I think most would view Obama as a more successful leader than Trump; certainly, he won re-election easily.
- spoonjim 6y ago
  Trump has had a much bigger impact on America than Obama did... whether that’s good or bad depends on your perspective. If, say, your mother was one of the villagers raped and murdered at Dos Erres in Guatemala, you might feel some catharsis from the hastened demise of the American republic.
  - lostcolony 6y ago
    Didn't say anything about effectiveness at creating change; Trump could have had that on lock just by pressing the red button, so to speak. I said leader.
- disgrunt 6y ago
  Is winning re-election really the metric for a great leader? If anything, an effective leader is going to have more opposition when it comes to re-election. No one is concerned with an ineffective leader, least of all their enemies.
- cambalache 6y ago
  Obama is a great politician (as in kiss the babies get the votes politician). He is one of the most inconsequential presidents in the last 100 years. Basically nothing happened during his presidency. The status quo was maintained, some trends got worse (inequality, climate record) and a barely functional health plan was put in place, that's it.
  - jrm4 6y ago
    But I really wish people understood how difficult it is to get to "nothing happened." Pilots put in hundreds of hours, and the plane landed, so "nothing happened." The 20 hour surgery went well and the person survived, so "nothing happened." Etc. etc.

throwaway09223 6y ago

I'm sure you've seen terrible behavior in corporate environments. I have too. But I've also seen wonderfully productive, supportive behavior. I've seen leaders who uplift and who succeed by helping those around them. I've learned to pay attention to who I work for, or with, and to support the kind of people who I want to see running things. It's a grave error to only consider the worst while ignoring the best.

cambalache 6y ago
> But I've also seen wonderfully productive, supportive behavior. Me too, 99% coming from the rank and file, cleaning personnel, etc. A VP wont sacrifice his chances of promotion to help you, and if he has to fire you to get it,he will.
- medium_burrito 6y ago
  I think I've seen one VP ever take the fall instead of firing an employee, and that was a principal engineer who was the VP's friend. Moral victory- but both the VP and the engineer were fired in the end. That said, I believe this is an isolated and extremely rare incident.

lostcolony 6y ago

I think it's clear even by your tone you recognize those aren't great leaders. Are you saying you feel they are -successful- leaders? More so than the kind ones? I think most would view Obama as a more successful leader than Trump; certainly, he won re-election easily.

spoonjim 6y ago
Trump has had a much bigger impact on America than Obama did... whether that’s good or bad depends on your perspective. If, say, your mother was one of the villagers raped and murdered at Dos Erres in Guatemala, you might feel some catharsis from the hastened demise of the American republic.
- lostcolony 6y ago
  Didn't say anything about effectiveness at creating change; Trump could have had that on lock just by pressing the red button, so to speak. I said leader.
disgrunt 6y ago
Is winning re-election really the metric for a great leader? If anything, an effective leader is going to have more opposition when it comes to re-election. No one is concerned with an ineffective leader, least of all their enemies.
cambalache 6y ago
Obama is a great politician (as in kiss the babies get the votes politician). He is one of the most inconsequential presidents in the last 100 years. Basically nothing happened during his presidency. The status quo was maintained, some trends got worse (inequality, climate record) and a barely functional health plan was put in place, that's it.
- jrm4 6y ago
  But I really wish people understood how difficult it is to get to "nothing happened." Pilots put in hundreds of hours, and the plane landed, so "nothing happened." The 20 hour surgery went well and the person survived, so "nothing happened." Etc. etc.