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Here is a simple math. How many people are needed to feed a single creator into a decent life? I suspect that the answer starts at a 1000 at least. And the crea

by FpUser 6y ago

Here is a simple math. How many people are needed to feed a single creator into a decent life? I suspect that the answer starts at a 1000 at least. And the creator is not alone. Others will compete for that short amount of time an average person can spare. Also people have other things to do rather than watching youtube/whatever so the chances that the creator finds that 1000 people are getting really thin. I think it is safe to assume the dilution factor is 100 at least. Then add some statistical distribution of market share each creator has, the ability of people to gravitate to already existing communities and suddenly you will discover that the world can not support too many creators at all. Of course I've pulled the numbers out of my own ... but I think it is reasonable assumption.

ClumsyPilot 6y ago
"How many people are needed to feed a single creator into a decent life?" I don't think the question makes sence - like what does it actyally mean, obviously we aren't talking about food. Is it perhaps better phares as: If average amount of money people are willing spend on entertainment, how many creators can a million people support? But what about people who make repair tutorials, etc, are they included? Is tbe amount of money people spend on entertainment fixed? Are game developers i cluded in this?
- ghaff 6y ago
  >Is tbe amount of money people spend on entertainment fixed? And time. For a given person, I think it roughly is. I'm probably going to spend about the same time (and money) watching video somewhat independently of the quality of content available (within reason). Preferences may shift over time--I spend more time reading things online relative to reading books than I did 20 years ago. But broadly, more or better entertainment options won't really shift my total time and money budget.
inglor_cz 6y ago
I am a writer and commentator (in the Czech Republic). I have about 3500 people on my mailing list and about 10 thousand occasional readers. I can make reasonable money by selling my books online, having my own e-shop is great, because there is no need to pay various middle men. 2020 was a good year and my total revenue from this business is comparable to what a Google software engineer makes here in Prague. I used to code for living, this is a much less stressful way of life. But the total amount of supporters necessary exceeds 1000 by a large margin. Even if 1000 people bought two of my books yearly, I would struggle financially.
- username90 6y ago
  People support more than one content creator though, if you got the entire media spending of 1000 people you'd do fine. Since your books can't fulfill peoples entire content need though you need more than 1000 people to do that, however 1 full time content creator per 1000 people seems reasonable.
CM30 6y ago
Depends on the type of content they create, how they monetise it, etc. I know two creators on YouTube of about the same size (about 50K subscribers), and their results have been very different. One of them made enough money to tour the world non stop, and currently lives a digital nomad esque lifestyle, and the other one had to get a job after his channel couldn't support a lifestyle in rural China. Generally, the more you rely on YouTube for your income, the higher your stats will need to be to live full time off your work. Whereas if you've got money from Patreon, merchandise, etc... then things don't need to be as extreme. So someone in the former group will likely need about 200K subscribers and hundreds of thousands of views per video on YouTube, whereas one in the latter could get away with a 30-50K channel and far less views per video. The topic obviously matters too. Gaming content is hell to monetise, whereas financial or business related content seems to have much better ad rates and what not. If Neil Patel was a gaming blogger, he'd be maybe one tenth as rich.

by FpUser 6y ago

ClumsyPilot 6y ago

"How many people are needed to feed a single creator into a decent life?" I don't think the question makes sence - like what does it actyally mean, obviously we aren't talking about food. Is it perhaps better phares as: If average amount of money people are willing spend on entertainment, how many creators can a million people support? But what about people who make repair tutorials, etc, are they included? Is tbe amount of money people spend on entertainment fixed? Are game developers i cluded in this?

ghaff 6y ago
>Is tbe amount of money people spend on entertainment fixed? And time. For a given person, I think it roughly is. I'm probably going to spend about the same time (and money) watching video somewhat independently of the quality of content available (within reason). Preferences may shift over time--I spend more time reading things online relative to reading books than I did 20 years ago. But broadly, more or better entertainment options won't really shift my total time and money budget.

inglor_cz 6y ago

I am a writer and commentator (in the Czech Republic). I have about 3500 people on my mailing list and about 10 thousand occasional readers. I can make reasonable money by selling my books online, having my own e-shop is great, because there is no need to pay various middle men. 2020 was a good year and my total revenue from this business is comparable to what a Google software engineer makes here in Prague. I used to code for living, this is a much less stressful way of life. But the total amount of supporters necessary exceeds 1000 by a large margin. Even if 1000 people bought two of my books yearly, I would struggle financially.

username90 6y ago
People support more than one content creator though, if you got the entire media spending of 1000 people you'd do fine. Since your books can't fulfill peoples entire content need though you need more than 1000 people to do that, however 1 full time content creator per 1000 people seems reasonable.

CM30 6y ago

Depends on the type of content they create, how they monetise it, etc. I know two creators on YouTube of about the same size (about 50K subscribers), and their results have been very different. One of them made enough money to tour the world non stop, and currently lives a digital nomad esque lifestyle, and the other one had to get a job after his channel couldn't support a lifestyle in rural China. Generally, the more you rely on YouTube for your income, the higher your stats will need to be to live full time off your work. Whereas if you've got money from Patreon, merchandise, etc... then things don't need to be as extreme. So someone in the former group will likely need about 200K subscribers and hundreds of thousands of views per video on YouTube, whereas one in the latter could get away with a 30-50K channel and far less views per video. The topic obviously matters too. Gaming content is hell to monetise, whereas financial or business related content seems to have much better ad rates and what not. If Neil Patel was a gaming blogger, he'd be maybe one tenth as rich.