About the same here in Finland. Getting 50k, is easy whether you have 5 years experience or 20 years. Getting 60-70k isn't impossible if you haggle and have a

About the same here in Finland. Getting 50k, is easy whether you have 5 years experience or 20 years. Getting 60-70k isn't impossible if you haggle and have a good niche, but gaining more as a sysadmin/developer is hard short of going down the self-employed/contractor route which is a headache of its own. Of course you don't need that much money to have excellent quality of life; paying €100/month for full-time daycare, having 5ish weeks of paid leave, good transport, good libraries, good social services, and similar means that if I had more money I wouldn't know what to do with it!