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Find a remote job with a US company. You will have to compromise your working hours (work at night), but you can go beyond €100k easily. Our company (seed stage

Find a remote job with a US company. You will have to compromise your working hours (work at night), but you can go beyond €100k easily. Our company (seed stage startup) has an open position for a remote senior software engineer for €100k+.

fileeditview 6y ago
In what world is this or any salary increase worth (constantly) working at night? Also if you work for a foreign company there are other things to consider in Germany.. health insurance will be different, taxes will be even more complicated..
- imbusy111 6y ago
  I answered the author's question and provided a path. May not be the only path. Whether they want to do it is their decision. We highly encourage relocating to Canada so the engineer doesn't have to work at night and we take care of immigration. But staying in Berlin is possible.
- deleted 6y ago
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- balfirevic 6y ago
  The time difference is perfect for more extreme night owls, especially the 6 hour east coast difference. Edit: Also, to take your question a bit more literally - it's pretty easy to see how large enough salary difference would be worth it, since you can just retire after few years.
  - fileeditview 6y ago
    The difference from 60k must be huge to retire after "a few years" though. Even if you live somewhere super cheap and don't spend any money and don't have any family to care for.. I should have phrased it differently. Of course there will be people that would do it. I am not one of them.
    - balfirevic 6y ago
      Yes, for retirement it would have to be something like 400K-500K, which seems to exist in the bay area but is probably not readily available remotely.
- demarq 6y ago
  I worked nights, it's pretty nice. Most people have never thought of it like this. You are awake both in the day and in the night. If you work during the day then all your freetime has to be spent at night. If you work at night, all your freetime gets to be spent in the glorious day, you know while people are out and about and shops/restaurants are open. remember you only sleep 8 hours at night, and to be fair in a US Europe situation your work hours merely overlap at night and it's most likely you work from 3pm to 10pm. so your time spend relaxing/working HAS NOT CHANGED. The quality of you relaxing time however has dramatically improved, and so has your working time. I'd tell anyone GO FOR IT.
  - BrandoElFollito 6y ago
    I used to do that when working on my PhD in a research center. I started with lunch at 14:00 (right after waking up) then worked until dawn. Silence, availability of computers (it was in the 90's),peuple gong home around 17,... It means no life outside work of course, but I was there alone for three or five months and it was awesome.
anotheryou 6y ago
I calculated with insurance ect. I'd have to earn double of what I earn in germany and it would be illegal to work as a full time contractor for just one company too.
- ThePhysicist 6y ago
  If the company is serious about hiring you they can create a subsidiary in Germany. I have some colleagues in Berlin that work for US companies (albeit larger ones), they all have GmbHs in Germany through which they employ people here.
  - anotheryou 6y ago
    guess I have to work my way up a bit further :)
- em-bee 6y ago
  it's not illegal for the contractor. technically the contractor has a right to regular employment but as long as they don't have a local subsidiary, local laws can't make a foreign company employ you, nor can they force you to cancel your contract, because that would go against your right to contract with anyone you like.
- seekingcharlie 6y ago
  It's not illegal to work for one company. I assume you mean Scheinselbstständigkeit. I've been doing it for 6 years and an accountant here in Berlin handles all my taxes.
jasonkester 6y ago
This is the correct answer. But minus the downside you note. I’ve worked for American companies since moving to England then France, and I only ever work normal hours. Maybe a 7pm call once a week, but beyond that, you just hand things off during the 3 hours a day that you overlap. And you make 5-10X what the local shops pay. It’s insane.

fileeditview 6y ago

In what world is this or any salary increase worth (constantly) working at night? Also if you work for a foreign company there are other things to consider in Germany.. health insurance will be different, taxes will be even more complicated..

imbusy111 6y ago
I answered the author's question and provided a path. May not be the only path. Whether they want to do it is their decision. We highly encourage relocating to Canada so the engineer doesn't have to work at night and we take care of immigration. But staying in Berlin is possible.
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balfirevic 6y ago
The time difference is perfect for more extreme night owls, especially the 6 hour east coast difference. Edit: Also, to take your question a bit more literally - it's pretty easy to see how large enough salary difference would be worth it, since you can just retire after few years.
- fileeditview 6y ago
  The difference from 60k must be huge to retire after "a few years" though. Even if you live somewhere super cheap and don't spend any money and don't have any family to care for.. I should have phrased it differently. Of course there will be people that would do it. I am not one of them.
  - balfirevic 6y ago
    Yes, for retirement it would have to be something like 400K-500K, which seems to exist in the bay area but is probably not readily available remotely.
demarq 6y ago
I worked nights, it's pretty nice. Most people have never thought of it like this. You are awake both in the day and in the night. If you work during the day then all your freetime has to be spent at night. If you work at night, all your freetime gets to be spent in the glorious day, you know while people are out and about and shops/restaurants are open. remember you only sleep 8 hours at night, and to be fair in a US Europe situation your work hours merely overlap at night and it's most likely you work from 3pm to 10pm. so your time spend relaxing/working HAS NOT CHANGED. The quality of you relaxing time however has dramatically improved, and so has your working time. I'd tell anyone GO FOR IT.
- BrandoElFollito 6y ago
  I used to do that when working on my PhD in a research center. I started with lunch at 14:00 (right after waking up) then worked until dawn. Silence, availability of computers (it was in the 90's),peuple gong home around 17,... It means no life outside work of course, but I was there alone for three or five months and it was awesome.

anotheryou 6y ago

I calculated with insurance ect. I'd have to earn double of what I earn in germany and it would be illegal to work as a full time contractor for just one company too.

ThePhysicist 6y ago
If the company is serious about hiring you they can create a subsidiary in Germany. I have some colleagues in Berlin that work for US companies (albeit larger ones), they all have GmbHs in Germany through which they employ people here.
- anotheryou 6y ago
  guess I have to work my way up a bit further :)
em-bee 6y ago
it's not illegal for the contractor. technically the contractor has a right to regular employment but as long as they don't have a local subsidiary, local laws can't make a foreign company employ you, nor can they force you to cancel your contract, because that would go against your right to contract with anyone you like.
seekingcharlie 6y ago
It's not illegal to work for one company. I assume you mean Scheinselbstständigkeit. I've been doing it for 6 years and an accountant here in Berlin handles all my taxes.

jasonkester 6y ago

This is the correct answer. But minus the downside you note. I’ve worked for American companies since moving to England then France, and I only ever work normal hours. Maybe a 7pm call once a week, but beyond that, you just hand things off during the 3 hours a day that you overlap. And you make 5-10X what the local shops pay. It’s insane.