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Wow. That's what I was afraid of. If done properly that's going to be a very long and tedious process.

weare138 6y ago
Unfortunately it may be later than sooner. So far Trump is downplaying the severity of the hack and implying China was behind the attack instead of Russia via a tweet. The White House hasn't even released a statement yet and so far refuses to acknowledge Russia was behind the attack. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1340333618691002368 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/13403336186910023... >The Cyber Hack is far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality. I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control. Russia, Russia, Russia is the priority chant when anything happens because Lamestream is, for mostly financial reasons, petrified of.... >....discussing the possibility that it may be China (it may!). There could also have been a hit on our ridiculous voting machines during the election, which is now obvious that I won big, making it an even more corrupted embarrassment for the USA.
- souprock 6y ago
  You presume he's wrong. Is it because of who he is, and you'd trust a different person? That wouldn't be fair, plus he has access to non-public information that could make the situation clear. Before even hearing his opinion, my thought was China. The attack has all the markings of China. I would put Russia as 3rd or 4th most likely.
  - weare138 6y ago
    Well this would be a good time to present evidence of said claims which contradicts the evidence we have so far. "The methods used to carry out the cyberhack are consistent with Russian cyber operations." -Senator Marco Rubio | Acting chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee "This was a very significant effort and I think it's the case that now we can say pretty clearly that it was the Russians that engaged in this activity." Mike Pompeo | US Secretary of State Russian State-Sponsored Advanced Persistent Threat Actor Compromises U.S. Government Targets - Alert (AA20-296A) Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/alerts/aa20-296a https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/alerts/aa20-296a
    - souprock 6y ago
      No, it would not be a good time to present evidence. It could be classified. The evidence may need to be locked away for 40 years. Satisfying your demand is not enough reason to expose the means by which evidence has been gathered. At they said in WWII, loose lips sink ships. Imagine yourself in WWII, demanding evidence of something that had been determined by cracking the Purple or Enigma cipher. No, you don't get to see that evidence. Sorry. You aren't trusted to keep that from the enemy. Also note: neither Rubio nor Pompeo presented any evidence! Why would you demand evidence from Trump, but not from them? Rubio has his motives. He has never liked the president. Pompeo is harder to pin down, but may be likewise. Either one could be pushing the increasing anti-Russian sentiment for political gain or worse. In any case, attribution is difficult. Countries purposely misdirect. This does however have a very Chinese feel.
    - Throwaway1771 6y ago
      I missed the evidence in your comment.

Unfortunately it may be later than sooner. So far Trump is downplaying the severity of the hack and implying China was behind the attack instead of Russia via a tweet. The White House hasn't even released a statement yet and so far refuses to acknowledge Russia was behind the attack. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1340333618691002368 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/13403336186910023... >The Cyber Hack is far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality. I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control. Russia, Russia, Russia is the priority chant when anything happens because Lamestream is, for mostly financial reasons, petrified of.... >....discussing the possibility that it may be China (it may!). There could also have been a hit on our ridiculous voting machines during the election, which is now obvious that I won big, making it an even more corrupted embarrassment for the USA.

souprock 6y ago
You presume he's wrong. Is it because of who he is, and you'd trust a different person? That wouldn't be fair, plus he has access to non-public information that could make the situation clear. Before even hearing his opinion, my thought was China. The attack has all the markings of China. I would put Russia as 3rd or 4th most likely.
- weare138 6y ago
  Well this would be a good time to present evidence of said claims which contradicts the evidence we have so far. "The methods used to carry out the cyberhack are consistent with Russian cyber operations." -Senator Marco Rubio | Acting chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee "This was a very significant effort and I think it's the case that now we can say pretty clearly that it was the Russians that engaged in this activity." Mike Pompeo | US Secretary of State Russian State-Sponsored Advanced Persistent Threat Actor Compromises U.S. Government Targets - Alert (AA20-296A) Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/alerts/aa20-296a https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/alerts/aa20-296a
  - souprock 6y ago
    No, it would not be a good time to present evidence. It could be classified. The evidence may need to be locked away for 40 years. Satisfying your demand is not enough reason to expose the means by which evidence has been gathered. At they said in WWII, loose lips sink ships. Imagine yourself in WWII, demanding evidence of something that had been determined by cracking the Purple or Enigma cipher. No, you don't get to see that evidence. Sorry. You aren't trusted to keep that from the enemy. Also note: neither Rubio nor Pompeo presented any evidence! Why would you demand evidence from Trump, but not from them? Rubio has his motives. He has never liked the president. Pompeo is harder to pin down, but may be likewise. Either one could be pushing the increasing anti-Russian sentiment for political gain or worse. In any case, attribution is difficult. Countries purposely misdirect. This does however have a very Chinese feel.
  - Throwaway1771 6y ago
    I missed the evidence in your comment.