Oof, yeah, without a proper configuration, they can be a pain in the ass. Out of the box, brand new, they overheat already. HP software is absolute trash. I li

Oof, yeah, without a proper configuration, they can be a pain in the ass. Out of the box, brand new, they overheat already. HP software is absolute trash. I literally use drivers from Lenovo because the ones HP provides are like 5 years old and they don't plan on updating them. Updating the BIOS is like playing Russian roulette, they seem to introduce more bugs than they fix. But the hardware itself is nice, I've been using HP workstations for more than a decade. Quality has gone down somewhat (less metal, more plastic, less durable compared to early Elitebooks imo), but they're still nice machines.