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I have a very strange SSD related bug at the moment on that Windows version too: I've downloaded my Google Takeout Backup, so 74 4GB sized zips. After I was do

I have a very strange SSD related bug at the moment on that Windows version too: I've downloaded my Google Takeout Backup, so 74 4GB sized zips. After I was done extracting them and storing them on Dropbox, I tried to delete the zip files, but my machine froze without so much of a bluescreen. After a hard reboot, I could reproduce the behavior. I can still change the focus of apps, but everything that requires the ssd to do anything is waiting for i/o until the system freezes completely. Unplugging the notebook seems to help, sometimes, but I can't make this work coherently at the moment. Until this post I thought my SSD (Samsung Evo 970 Plus) was faulty, despite working perfectly for everything else.

noja 6y ago
Sounds like an anti-virus problem. What happens if you delete it from the command prompt or powershell?
- Roritharr 6y ago
  powershell and commandprompt sadly create the same result, but thanks for the suggestion.
tryauuum 6y ago
If it happens only on deletion of files, maybe it's something TRIM-related.
stinos 6y ago
Dropbox Might that be your problem, or part of it? Not 100% sure, but whenever I access machines with Dropbox all kinds of weird things happen like there's a ghost in the machines. E.g. deleting a directory managed by Dropbox through explorer consistently results in all its subdirectories and files deleted, but the directory itself remaining there, requiring deleting it again.
- pedro2 6y ago
  That directories reappear empty thingie was an sync engine issue, I believe. It was fixed in latest sync engine update (though this issue was never mentioned, it stopped happening). Regarding the parent poster, on Windows Smart Sync is enabled and, while extremely useful (and better that Onedrive’s equivalent IMO), it did cause issues in the past. Since it seems to work as a file filter, it can cause some issues. That being said, I haven’t seen those in a while.
segfaultbuserr 6y ago
SATA Link Power Management (LPM) and Device-Initiated Power Management (DIPM) could also be the culprit here with similar symptoms - after using the computer for a while, the SSD will stop responding to I/O activities, leaving you a half-dead system. Existing programs like a browser, taskbar or window manager will still work for a while, until they need I/O too, eventually everything will be progressively dead. It should be a persistent problem that shows up immediately after you've just installed an incompatible SSD, and it should only affect those who installed Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver. So, if it only appears after a system upgrade, it should not be the problem here. But apparently it's still a possible cause. So, just in case, the solution follows: First, try disabling HIPM and DIPM in Windows "Power Options", you can use this tutorial: https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/177819-ahci-link-power-management-enable-hipm-dipm.html https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/177819-ahci-link-power... Also, if you are using the Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver, LPM and DIPM can be disabled by making the following registry changes. After making the changes, reboot the system and test. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port0] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port1] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port2] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port3] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port4] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port5] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 Note: 1. It disables LPM and DIPM blindly for Port0, Port1, Port2, Port3, Port4, and Port5. It may miss your SSD if you have more ports (unlikely), and if you know the location of your SSD, one entry is enough. 2. I only tested it many years ago on an old version of iaStor, perhaps a new upgrade has made these register keys ineffective. Who knows. 3. Previously, uninstalling iaStor and using the built-in AHCI driver in Windows could be a workaround. But I'm not sure whether it's still a solution.
- Roritharr 6y ago
bserge 6y ago
I had a very similar issue. Samsung 860 Pro, system somehow got slower and slower until it froze. After a hard reboot, my partitions on 2 dynamic drives were gone. Easily restored with Testdisk, but that was a weird one. Never had it happen again.

noja 6y ago

Sounds like an anti-virus problem. What happens if you delete it from the command prompt or powershell?

Roritharr 6y ago
powershell and commandprompt sadly create the same result, but thanks for the suggestion.

tryauuum 6y ago

If it happens only on deletion of files, maybe it's something TRIM-related.

stinos 6y ago

Dropbox Might that be your problem, or part of it? Not 100% sure, but whenever I access machines with Dropbox all kinds of weird things happen like there's a ghost in the machines. E.g. deleting a directory managed by Dropbox through explorer consistently results in all its subdirectories and files deleted, but the directory itself remaining there, requiring deleting it again.

pedro2 6y ago
That directories reappear empty thingie was an sync engine issue, I believe. It was fixed in latest sync engine update (though this issue was never mentioned, it stopped happening). Regarding the parent poster, on Windows Smart Sync is enabled and, while extremely useful (and better that Onedrive’s equivalent IMO), it did cause issues in the past. Since it seems to work as a file filter, it can cause some issues. That being said, I haven’t seen those in a while.

segfaultbuserr 6y ago

SATA Link Power Management (LPM) and Device-Initiated Power Management (DIPM) could also be the culprit here with similar symptoms - after using the computer for a while, the SSD will stop responding to I/O activities, leaving you a half-dead system. Existing programs like a browser, taskbar or window manager will still work for a while, until they need I/O too, eventually everything will be progressively dead. It should be a persistent problem that shows up immediately after you've just installed an incompatible SSD, and it should only affect those who installed Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver. So, if it only appears after a system upgrade, it should not be the problem here. But apparently it's still a possible cause. So, just in case, the solution follows: First, try disabling HIPM and DIPM in Windows "Power Options", you can use this tutorial: https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/177819-ahci-link-power-management-enable-hipm-dipm.html https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/177819-ahci-link-power... Also, if you are using the Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver, LPM and DIPM can be disabled by making the following registry changes. After making the changes, reboot the system and test. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port0] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port1] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port2] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port3] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port4] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port5] "LPM"=dword:00000000 "LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000 "DIPM"=dword:00000000 Note: 1. It disables LPM and DIPM blindly for Port0, Port1, Port2, Port3, Port4, and Port5. It may miss your SSD if you have more ports (unlikely), and if you know the location of your SSD, one entry is enough. 2. I only tested it many years ago on an old version of iaStor, perhaps a new upgrade has made these register keys ineffective. Who knows. 3. Previously, uninstalling iaStor and using the built-in AHCI driver in Windows could be a workaround. But I'm not sure whether it's still a solution.

Roritharr 6y ago

bserge 6y ago

I had a very similar issue. Samsung 860 Pro, system somehow got slower and slower until it froze. After a hard reboot, my partitions on 2 dynamic drives were gone. Easily restored with Testdisk, but that was a weird one. Never had it happen again.