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I never wanted kids and would argue that sperm banking is an option if that's a fear. I don't see your argument any different than forcing one's beliefs on othe

I never wanted kids and would argue that sperm banking is an option if that's a fear. I don't see your argument any different than forcing one's beliefs on others to prevent a medical treatment that oneself desires as well. Lastly, majority of people I know nowadays aren't even having kids.

CryptoPunk 6y ago
Of course, for some people sterility is not a problem. For some, it is a massive problem. Parents have a right to force their beliefs onto their children if their beliefs are reasonable. Their children will often thank them for it when they've become adults. You're dismissing sterility as a non-issue when it is a massive issue for many people, and moreover, you're obfuscating the fact that this is about children, and the potential to undergo life-altering treatment with no psychiatric evaluation and little-to-no consultation.
- DanBC 6y ago
  The court case is about PBs. PBs do not cause sterility. Either you know that and don't care, or you don't know that, but either way it means you're not discussing in good faith. > Parents have a right to force their beliefs onto their children if their beliefs are reasonable. This court case said that combined parental consent and child consent was not enough, and that the court could ignore the wishes of the parent. > and the potential to undergo life-altering treatment with no psychiatric evaluation and little-to-no consultation. Simply untrue.
  - CryptoPunk 6y ago
    What's bad faith is claiming that what myself and the OP were discussing is merely PB, when in reality it's about the full hormone therapy treatment regiment involved in gender transitioning. But way to score a point on pedantic grounds. >This court case said that combined parental consent and child consent was not enough I was responding to the OP's point, that claimed I was arguing for forcing my beliefs on others. I was making the point that in principle, it can be perfectly okay for parents to force their beliefs on their children. It depends on the circumstances and the specific details of the case. I was not making an argument for or against parental privilege for any specific case.

CryptoPunk 6y ago

Of course, for some people sterility is not a problem. For some, it is a massive problem. Parents have a right to force their beliefs onto their children if their beliefs are reasonable. Their children will often thank them for it when they've become adults. You're dismissing sterility as a non-issue when it is a massive issue for many people, and moreover, you're obfuscating the fact that this is about children, and the potential to undergo life-altering treatment with no psychiatric evaluation and little-to-no consultation.

DanBC 6y ago
The court case is about PBs. PBs do not cause sterility. Either you know that and don't care, or you don't know that, but either way it means you're not discussing in good faith. > Parents have a right to force their beliefs onto their children if their beliefs are reasonable. This court case said that combined parental consent and child consent was not enough, and that the court could ignore the wishes of the parent. > and the potential to undergo life-altering treatment with no psychiatric evaluation and little-to-no consultation. Simply untrue.
- CryptoPunk 6y ago
  What's bad faith is claiming that what myself and the OP were discussing is merely PB, when in reality it's about the full hormone therapy treatment regiment involved in gender transitioning. But way to score a point on pedantic grounds. >This court case said that combined parental consent and child consent was not enough I was responding to the OP's point, that claimed I was arguing for forcing my beliefs on others. I was making the point that in principle, it can be perfectly okay for parents to force their beliefs on their children. It depends on the circumstances and the specific details of the case. I was not making an argument for or against parental privilege for any specific case.