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>The one thing really keeping me from getting off Google is YouTube. For everything else there are good alternatives. But YouTube really is the only viable play

>The one thing really keeping me from getting off Google is YouTube. For everything else there are good alternatives. But YouTube really is the only viable player in the online video game. The thing I hate most is ads. And YouTube (unless you pay them) gets ever more aggressive with showing ads. The pre-roll ads are bad enough, but interrupting a playing video with a couple of ads (as happened to me the other day) is way beyond the pale. I guess I need to take a closer look at integrating youtube-dl into my Mythtv environment and otherwise just ignore YT (as I do all of Google's other herding tools).

jonas21 6y ago
It's usually the content creator who chooses how many ads run in a video and where they appear. I can't really blame them for putting in enough ads to make a living off of it. And nobody is forcing you to watch the ads -- you can get rid of them for $12/mo. Or are you saying that you expect people to produce quality content for you for free?
- nobody9999 6y ago
  >And nobody is forcing you to watch the ads -- you can get rid of them for $12/mo. Or are you saying that you expect people to produce quality content for you for free? They are not. And I generally don't. In fact, I rarely watch YouTube. When I do, it's generally to find a specific song or video clip (both usually decades old) to forward along to someone else. In those situations, I would be shocked if the "owner" of the content (the YT channel owner) had actually paid license fees to the actual copyright owner. As for paying $12/month to get rid of ads, that seems an awful lot like a protection racket. "It'd be a real shame if you had to waste all that time watching ads. We don't care about the money, we just want to help you make your viewing experience better." Given that the video in question[0] wasn't actually created (or even directly licensed) by the owner of the YT channel, your point is moot for that particular piece of content. As for actual content creators, I absolutely believe they should be fairly compensated for their work. However, simply repackaging the work of others isn't "content creation." Regardless, I make every effort to shun all platforms that attempt to show me ads. That's my choice. Because I don't care to be presented with a bunch of garbage or pay the same people who profit from it to not see such crap. If there's something I want, I'll buy (not stream or rent or license) it. There's far too much of that going on and I refuse to support it. If I buy music or a phone or a car or a tractor or seed or anything else, I should be able to use it as I see fit, without restriction, data exfiltration or a bunch of scum trying to sell me stuff. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va8Uz6MoKLg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va8Uz6MoKLg
  - ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
    I don't see your point. You didn't buy the YouTube content. You're watching it for free. How about you just don't watch YouTube?
    - nobody9999 6y ago
      >I don't see your point. You didn't buy the YouTube content. You're watching it for free. How about you just don't watch YouTube? As a general rule, I don't. And if you'd actually read/comprehended the post you replied to, you'd know that.
ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
You've never heard of a commercial break? Find that hard to believe.
- nobody9999 6y ago
  >You've never heard of a commercial break? Find that hard to believe. I don't tolerate that garbage from TV (via time-shifting/fast-forwarding), why should I accept it from online sources? And I don't. Show me a site that has ads I can't skip and I'll show you a site I won't use.
evilos 6y ago
If you're watching on non-mobile device, why not just use ublock origin extension? I haven't seen a youtube ad in ages.
- AdDefender31415 6y ago
  An ad blocker? You use an ad blocker? You're a thief! Children will die of starvation because of you. Just ask this guy[0], he knows the truth! You're taking the food out of good, decent peoples' mouths! Do you know how long it takes to repackage someone else's creative work, upload it to YouTube and set it for maximum ad views? At least 40 minutes! You steal from hard working people. You need to go to PMITA prison and get PITA for a few years! No. That's too good for you. Off to Gitmo with you! A good thing there aren't more criminals like you or our wonderous capitalist system would completely collapse! Have you no morals? No sense of right and wrong? When you block ads and trackers you kill babies! For shame! [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=jonas21 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=jonas21

jonas21 6y ago

It's usually the content creator who chooses how many ads run in a video and where they appear. I can't really blame them for putting in enough ads to make a living off of it. And nobody is forcing you to watch the ads -- you can get rid of them for $12/mo. Or are you saying that you expect people to produce quality content for you for free?

nobody9999 6y ago
>And nobody is forcing you to watch the ads -- you can get rid of them for $12/mo. Or are you saying that you expect people to produce quality content for you for free? They are not. And I generally don't. In fact, I rarely watch YouTube. When I do, it's generally to find a specific song or video clip (both usually decades old) to forward along to someone else. In those situations, I would be shocked if the "owner" of the content (the YT channel owner) had actually paid license fees to the actual copyright owner. As for paying $12/month to get rid of ads, that seems an awful lot like a protection racket. "It'd be a real shame if you had to waste all that time watching ads. We don't care about the money, we just want to help you make your viewing experience better." Given that the video in question[0] wasn't actually created (or even directly licensed) by the owner of the YT channel, your point is moot for that particular piece of content. As for actual content creators, I absolutely believe they should be fairly compensated for their work. However, simply repackaging the work of others isn't "content creation." Regardless, I make every effort to shun all platforms that attempt to show me ads. That's my choice. Because I don't care to be presented with a bunch of garbage or pay the same people who profit from it to not see such crap. If there's something I want, I'll buy (not stream or rent or license) it. There's far too much of that going on and I refuse to support it. If I buy music or a phone or a car or a tractor or seed or anything else, I should be able to use it as I see fit, without restriction, data exfiltration or a bunch of scum trying to sell me stuff. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va8Uz6MoKLg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va8Uz6MoKLg
- ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
  I don't see your point. You didn't buy the YouTube content. You're watching it for free. How about you just don't watch YouTube?
  - nobody9999 6y ago
    >I don't see your point. You didn't buy the YouTube content. You're watching it for free. How about you just don't watch YouTube? As a general rule, I don't. And if you'd actually read/comprehended the post you replied to, you'd know that.

ulisesrmzroche 6y ago

You've never heard of a commercial break? Find that hard to believe.

nobody9999 6y ago
>You've never heard of a commercial break? Find that hard to believe. I don't tolerate that garbage from TV (via time-shifting/fast-forwarding), why should I accept it from online sources? And I don't. Show me a site that has ads I can't skip and I'll show you a site I won't use.

evilos 6y ago

If you're watching on non-mobile device, why not just use ublock origin extension? I haven't seen a youtube ad in ages.

AdDefender31415 6y ago
An ad blocker? You use an ad blocker? You're a thief! Children will die of starvation because of you. Just ask this guy[0], he knows the truth! You're taking the food out of good, decent peoples' mouths! Do you know how long it takes to repackage someone else's creative work, upload it to YouTube and set it for maximum ad views? At least 40 minutes! You steal from hard working people. You need to go to PMITA prison and get PITA for a few years! No. That's too good for you. Off to Gitmo with you! A good thing there aren't more criminals like you or our wonderous capitalist system would completely collapse! Have you no morals? No sense of right and wrong? When you block ads and trackers you kill babies! For shame! [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=jonas21 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=jonas21