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I’m a solo person on google enterprise for $20 a month. It sadly cannot be beat. Unlimited storage (almost 40TB) and email is all I care about and it works pret

I’m a solo person on google enterprise for $20 a month. It sadly cannot be beat. Unlimited storage (almost 40TB) and email is all I care about and it works pretty much flawlessly (besides this weeks outage). I wouldn’t want to have the hassle of running it myself nor the price of storing all that data. So sadly I remain with google.

ipsum2 6y ago
I'm on a similar plan, but I'm worried about the forced upgrade to Google Workspace, which would reduce the amount of storage to 2-5TB per user. I imagine it'll be mandatory soon.
nkrisc 6y ago
> Unlimited storage (almost 40TB) Huh? One of those is finite and the other is not.
- the_svd_doctor 6y ago
  It means he has 40TB stored I guess.
- throwaway201103 6y ago
  40TB is essentially infinite unless you're doing something with large amounts of media content.
- flatiron 6y ago
  i am using 40TB out of unlimited. you are right, that was not clear in my comment
nominated1 6y ago
Not to mention you’re less likely to get hit with ransomware. Nextcloud pwnage seems much more likely.
- j45 6y ago
  Putting anything behind a firewall in combination with a VPN can be relatively turn key and self patching without too much effort. Docker wi5 a tool like proxmox can go a very, very long way in a matter of a few days... and provide near identical vps maintainability. Hardware is much more reliable and self monitoring than it used to be.
  - rovr138 6y ago
    None of this deals with ransomware
    - j45 6y ago
      Do you mean you don't know how it could deal with Ransomware? Or that there's no possible way local setups could could deal with Ransomware because you aren't aware of it? Ransomware attack vectors are often clicking malicious websites, emails, or software opening stuff that is risky. Keeping you access point patches system patched and browser up to date is a big line of defence, with or without cloud backups. Those identities can be as easily hacked if the weak spot is our computer.. Using browser and email plug-ins to increase security and safety can be helpful too. One can run pihole locally at home as well and filter out a great deal of trackers that can get hacked. It's also relatively easy to setup multiple vlans on your local network to separate your devices. Having multiple current backups of your computer, physically and locallu is also an important defence against ransomware.
kmclean 6y ago
Yeah I think Google is pretty hard to beat for anyone who only cares about cheap storage, unfortunately. One argument I have for that crowd is that there's nothing stopping Google from coming seeking rent in the future (like they're currently doing with Photos), once they successfully kill off all viable competition by offering their products at a loss, which they can afford to do but a lot of companies who only do one thing (like e.g. email) can't. But yeah I also don't think Nextcloud or other alternatives will really take over unless security/privacy/ethics become a higher priority than cost for most people, which seems unlikely to me. Edit: Typo (of -> off)

ipsum2 6y ago

I'm on a similar plan, but I'm worried about the forced upgrade to Google Workspace, which would reduce the amount of storage to 2-5TB per user. I imagine it'll be mandatory soon.

nkrisc 6y ago

> Unlimited storage (almost 40TB) Huh? One of those is finite and the other is not.

the_svd_doctor 6y ago
It means he has 40TB stored I guess.
throwaway201103 6y ago
40TB is essentially infinite unless you're doing something with large amounts of media content.
flatiron 6y ago
i am using 40TB out of unlimited. you are right, that was not clear in my comment

nominated1 6y ago

Not to mention you’re less likely to get hit with ransomware. Nextcloud pwnage seems much more likely.

j45 6y ago
Putting anything behind a firewall in combination with a VPN can be relatively turn key and self patching without too much effort. Docker wi5 a tool like proxmox can go a very, very long way in a matter of a few days... and provide near identical vps maintainability. Hardware is much more reliable and self monitoring than it used to be.
- rovr138 6y ago
  None of this deals with ransomware
  - j45 6y ago
    Do you mean you don't know how it could deal with Ransomware? Or that there's no possible way local setups could could deal with Ransomware because you aren't aware of it? Ransomware attack vectors are often clicking malicious websites, emails, or software opening stuff that is risky. Keeping you access point patches system patched and browser up to date is a big line of defence, with or without cloud backups. Those identities can be as easily hacked if the weak spot is our computer.. Using browser and email plug-ins to increase security and safety can be helpful too. One can run pihole locally at home as well and filter out a great deal of trackers that can get hacked. It's also relatively easy to setup multiple vlans on your local network to separate your devices. Having multiple current backups of your computer, physically and locallu is also an important defence against ransomware.

kmclean 6y ago

Yeah I think Google is pretty hard to beat for anyone who only cares about cheap storage, unfortunately. One argument I have for that crowd is that there's nothing stopping Google from coming seeking rent in the future (like they're currently doing with Photos), once they successfully kill off all viable competition by offering their products at a loss, which they can afford to do but a lot of companies who only do one thing (like e.g. email) can't. But yeah I also don't think Nextcloud or other alternatives will really take over unless security/privacy/ethics become a higher priority than cost for most people, which seems unlikely to me. Edit: Typo (of -> off)