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I don't understand what you think is shown "through" the roof of the clubhouse (or cars, for that matter). That's just the roof: https://goo.gl/maps/bsSQjADvWu

I don't understand what you think is shown "through" the roof of the clubhouse (or cars, for that matter). That's just the roof: https://goo.gl/maps/bsSQjADvWuynPLvq6 https://goo.gl/maps/bsSQjADvWuynPLvq6

Firerouge 6y ago
Interestingly it does seem to see right through the awning that's to the right of the roof. There appears to be a couple tables that are hiden from Google's satellite view but clearly visible to the bottom right of the building in the ka band SAR image.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  The SAR photo was probably taken before an awning was installed.
  - Firerouge 6y ago
    I thought that might of been the case as well, but based on Google Earth Pro's historic satellite data, it's been there since 2009.
    - technick 6y ago
      How long has this witchcraft been around?
    - StavrosK 6y ago
      That's odd, but you can see in the SAR photo that there isn't even an outline of the awning, nor the golf carts under it, nor the columns that hold the awning up, but there are trees which aren't there in the photos from the ground.
      - Firerouge 6y ago
        It certainly looks like you're right. While I can't find the image online earlier than 2010, there's an ieee research paper titled TanDEM-X for High-Resolution SAR Interferometry from 2007, so it certainly could predate the awning.
jcims 6y ago
I just started to doubt myself but you saved me lol. OK take a look at the front of that building (found on flickr) https://i.imgur.com/cDF8Fsr.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cDF8Fsr.jpg Now take a look at this map image, and go back and forth to see if you feel that the X i marked is a reasonable approximation of the photographer's location https://i.imgur.com/fvj0ZPj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fvj0ZPj.jpg Now take a look again at the SAR image and tell me if you can see any artifacts from the front of the building through the roof (hint, zoom in and look for the curved line of bright dots :) ) https://www.sandia.gov/radar/_assets/images/gallery/ka-band-3.png https://www.sandia.gov/radar/_assets/images/gallery/ka-band-...
- StavrosK 6y ago
  Not really, the building windows are octagonal (you can see that they're straight) and the dots curve. The brick wall at the front, though, has the exact same curvature as the dots, dead-on.
- CapriciousCptl 6y ago
  I don't follow. Can you edit the ka band image and circle what you're seeing?
  - jcims 6y ago
    This part - https://i.imgur.com/CmtzOES.png https://i.imgur.com/CmtzOES.png But now that I have a better understanding of the layover effect I think it might just be that the satellite is looking from where it looks like the sun is shining, and it's directly imaging that front window frame and brick wall. Need our SAR pro to comment :)

Firerouge 6y ago

Interestingly it does seem to see right through the awning that's to the right of the roof. There appears to be a couple tables that are hiden from Google's satellite view but clearly visible to the bottom right of the building in the ka band SAR image.

StavrosK 6y ago
The SAR photo was probably taken before an awning was installed.
- Firerouge 6y ago
  I thought that might of been the case as well, but based on Google Earth Pro's historic satellite data, it's been there since 2009.
  - technick 6y ago
    How long has this witchcraft been around?
  - StavrosK 6y ago
    That's odd, but you can see in the SAR photo that there isn't even an outline of the awning, nor the golf carts under it, nor the columns that hold the awning up, but there are trees which aren't there in the photos from the ground.
    - Firerouge 6y ago
      It certainly looks like you're right. While I can't find the image online earlier than 2010, there's an ieee research paper titled TanDEM-X for High-Resolution SAR Interferometry from 2007, so it certainly could predate the awning.

jcims 6y ago

I just started to doubt myself but you saved me lol. OK take a look at the front of that building (found on flickr) https://i.imgur.com/cDF8Fsr.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cDF8Fsr.jpg Now take a look at this map image, and go back and forth to see if you feel that the X i marked is a reasonable approximation of the photographer's location https://i.imgur.com/fvj0ZPj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fvj0ZPj.jpg Now take a look again at the SAR image and tell me if you can see any artifacts from the front of the building through the roof (hint, zoom in and look for the curved line of bright dots :) ) https://www.sandia.gov/radar/_assets/images/gallery/ka-band-3.png https://www.sandia.gov/radar/_assets/images/gallery/ka-band-...

StavrosK 6y ago
Not really, the building windows are octagonal (you can see that they're straight) and the dots curve. The brick wall at the front, though, has the exact same curvature as the dots, dead-on.
CapriciousCptl 6y ago
I don't follow. Can you edit the ka band image and circle what you're seeing?
- jcims 6y ago
  This part - https://i.imgur.com/CmtzOES.png https://i.imgur.com/CmtzOES.png But now that I have a better understanding of the layover effect I think it might just be that the satellite is looking from where it looks like the sun is shining, and it's directly imaging that front window frame and brick wall. Need our SAR pro to comment :)